March 10, 201313 yr Hi Pilots There is no LLZ26 approach in the FMC to set up the DME/LLZ course to RWY 8 at Innsbruck. As seen in the Tutorial there it should be. Can you help me on this topic? Peter Frey LSZH
March 10, 201313 yr Some radio-based approaches are being removed to give place to RNAV procedures. PMDG's tutorial was made over a year ago, and several AIRAC cycles have gone through. Like everything in life, procedures change. Also, you should ask about this subject in the forum of your navdata provider. PMDG can't help you with this. Matheus Mafra
March 10, 201313 yr Author Good stuff - make sense, thank you very much! I am using Navidat Pro from Aerosoft. Peter Frey LSZH
March 10, 201313 yr Author To gain back the LLZ 26 approach to rwy 8 (which is an amazing one), could someone put the ORIGINAL coding into this treat. THANKS A LOT! You can find it at: Microsoft Games/ Flight Simulator X/PMDG/sidstars/LOWI Please, copy and past this section: APPROACHES APPROACH RNAV08 FIX WI801 AT OR ABOVE 10300 FIX WI802 AT OR ABOVE 9000 FIX WI803 AT OR ABOVE 7500 FIX OVERFLY WI804 AT 6000 RNW 08 FIX WI006 AT OR ABOVE 2307 FIX WI005 FIX WI103 FIX OVERFLY WI001 AT 11500 HOLD AT FIX WI001 RIGHT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 226 LEGTIME 1 TRANSITION ELMEM FIX ELMEM AT OR ABOVE 13000 APPROACH RNAV26 FIX WI002 AT 9500 FIX WI103 AT OR ABOVE 3320 RNW 26 FIX WI005 AT OR ABOVE 2400 FIX WI006 FIX OVERFLY WI007 FIX OVERFLY R300A SPEED 165 FIX OVERFLY R229A SPEED 165 FIX OVERFLY WI008 SPEED 165 FIX WI006 FIX WI005 FIX WI103 FIX WI002 FIX WI001 AT 11500 HOLD AT FIX WI001 RIGHT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 226 LEGTIME 1 TRANSITION WI001 FIX WI001 AT OR ABOVE 9500 APPROACH LOC26 FIX OEV21 AT OR ABOVE 9500 FIX OEV19 AT 9500 FIX OEV17 AT OR ABOVE 8700 FIX OEV14 AT OR ABOVE 7500 FIX OEV09 AT OR ABOVE 5500 FIX OEV63 AT 4410 RNW 26 FIX OVERFLY 01OEV AT OR ABOVE 2307 TURN LEFT DIRECT FIX ABNB FIX OVERFLY OEV14 FIX RTTNB AT 9500 HOLD AT FIX RTTNB RIGHT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 226 LEGTIME 1 TRANSITION RTT TRK 210 UNTIL 6.0 FROM FIX RTTNB ENDAPPROACHES Peter Frey LSZH
March 10, 201313 yr Yeah this is the hiccup I ran into flying the tutorial. The approach still exists but with different waypoints... it's a little different but I just improvised. Still was able to fly the procedure and CTL. | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
March 11, 201313 yr Author Captains Can somebody post the ORIGINAL sidstar file content of LOWI? Might be helpful for all pilots, who lost the LLZ26 by updating their navdata. Microsoft Games/ Flight Simulator X/PMDG/sidstars/LOWI Please, copy and past this section: APPROACHES till ENDAPPROACHES THANK YOU! Peter Frey LSZH
March 12, 201313 yr APPROACHESAPPROACH LLZ26 FIX CL26 AT OR ABOVE 9500 FIX FL26 AT OR ABOVE 9500 FIX ML26 4414 RNW 26 HDG 254 VECTORS TRANSITION RTT FIX RTTNB AT OR ABOVE 9500 TRK 210 INTERCEPT RADIAL 254 TO FIX CL26APPROACH RNAV08 FIX WI801 AT OR ABOVE 10300 FIX WI802 AT OR ABOVE 9000 FIX OVERFLY WI804 6000 RNW 08 FIX WI006 AT OR ABOVE 6000 FIX WI005 FIX WI103 FIX WI001 11500 HOLD AT FIX WI001 RIGHT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 226 LEGTIME 1 TRANSITION ELMEM FIX ELMEM AT OR ABOVE 13000APPROACH RNAV26 FIX WI002 AT OR ABOVE 9500 FIX WI103 AT OR ABOVE 3320 RNW 26 FIX WI005 AT OR ABOVE 2310 FIX WI006 FIX WI007 TURN LEFT DIRECT FIX WI008 SPEED 165 FIX WI006 FIX WI005 FIX WI103 FIX WI002 FIX WI001 11500 HOLD AT FIX WI001 RIGHT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 226 LEGTIME 1 TRANSITION WI001 FIX WI001 AT OR ABOVE 9500ENDAPPROACHES Kind regardsR.G
March 13, 201313 yr Ummm, I just checked out my sidstars for LOWI and they are already as above supplied by Robert? I did see a comment by Navigraph on their latest release 1303 that LOWI was fixed.... from Navigraph news letter... "In 1303 we have merged several data sources, including Jeppesen and Navtech among others. We have (1) included Gates information, and (2) Circle to Land procedures for LFMN, LPMA, and LOWI. (3) The ILS26 to ESSA is also back again. To track the latest changes, we remind you about the Release Notes section of the Navigraph Support Forum, found here: http://www.navigraph.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=22 As always, we appreciate your feedback on how to improve the data quality." So, maybe they repaired the LOWI approach ? Regards Geoff Bryce
March 13, 201313 yr Author Thanks for your thoughts G.B. I am using NavDataPro from Aerosoft, which unfortunately not include this approach - after used all cycles I migth switch to Navigraph. Peter Frey LSZH
March 13, 201313 yr Author Captains To recover the original file it is importent to fill in the entire codes. Because of Roberts help (thanks a lot again) I can post it here for you all. FIXESFIX ABNB LATLON N 47 17.31234 E 11 30.1005FIX ADILO LATLON N 47 20.74884 E 10 56.85918FIX BRENO LATLON N 46 58.8 E 11 22.60002FIX CL26 LATLON N 47 20.65266 E 11 51.16452FIX D065G LATLON N 47 21.5985 E 11 45.6192FIX D073F LATLON N 47 18.86718 E 11 38.66352FIX D136A LATLON N 47 25.002 E 11 57.53484FIX D152V LATLON N 47 25.54998 E 10 35.83332FIX D247C LATLON N 47 16.15164 E 11 25.66398FIX ELMEM LATLON N 47 17.13798 E 10 34.24434FIX FL26 LATLON N 47 20.18118 E 11 48.30666FIX INNNB LATLON N 47 13.80048 E 11 24.1125FIX KOGOL LATLON N 47 37.33332 E 11 23.98332FIX KPT LATLON N 47 44.7465 E 10 20.98998FIX KPT39 LATLON N 47 18.74286 E 11 3.86652FIX KTINB LATLON N 47 12.93234 E 11 1.67034FIX ML26 LATLON N 47 17.15982 E 11 30.17916FIX NANIT LATLON N 47 23.5812 E 12 20.78616FIX OBEDI LATLON N 47 19.67382 E 13 19.78482FIX OEJ LATLON N 47 18.87018 E 11 36.14532FIX RASTA LATLON N 47 29.72568 E 13 22.88202FIX RTTNB LATLON N 47 25.85532 E 11 56.40318FIX SBG LATLON N 48 0.15498 E 12 53.56566FIX TULSI LATLON N 47 42.09648 E 11 47.32548FIX UNKEN LATLON N 47 49.30002 E 12 36.06666FIX WI001 LATLON N 47 25.8555 E 11 56.40384FIX WI002 LATLON N 47 22.6002 E 11 49.50018FIX WI005 LATLON N 47 15.14532 E 11 16.11366FIX WI006 LATLON N 47 18.34002 E 11 5.16336FIX WI007 LATLON N 47 19.203 E 10 58.99902FIX WI008 LATLON N 47 16.64268 E 10 59.36034FIX WI103 LATLON N 47 16.27482 E 11 26.7927FIX WI501 LATLON N 47 15.14532 E 11 16.11336FIX WI502 LATLON N 47 18.34002 E 11 5.16414FIX WI505 LATLON N 47 15.14532 E 11 16.11414FIX WI506 LATLON N 47 17.41152 E 11 8.35452FIX WI507 LATLON N 47 18.34002 E 11 5.16252FIX WI801 LATLON N 47 17.5455 E 10 44.32566FIX WI802 LATLON N 47 17.78184 E 10 50.37582FIX WI804 LATLON N 47 18.23184 E 11 2.22786ENDFIXESRNWSRNW 08RNW 26ENDRNWSSIDSSID ADIL1J RNW 08 FIX D247C FIX ABNB FIX OVERFLY OEJ AT OR ABOVE 7500 SPEED 165 TURN RIGHT DIRECT FIX INNNB FIX ADILOSID ELME1H RNW 26 FIX WI505 AT OR ABOVE 3520 FIX WI506 AT OR ABOVE 7000 FIX WI507 AT OR ABOVE 8430 FIX ELMEMSID ELME1X RNW 26 FIX WI501 AT OR ABOVE 3190 FIX WI502 AT OR ABOVE 6490 FIX ELMEMSID KOGO2J RNW 08 FIX D247C FIX ABNB FIX OEJ AT OR ABOVE 4800 FIX D065G AT OR ABOVE 6700 TRK 065 UNTIL 9500 FIX OVERFLY D136A TURN LEFT DIRECT FIX RTTNB HOLD AT FIX RTTNB RIGHT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 226 ALT 9500 LEGTIME 1 FIX KOGOLSID KPT1Z RNW 08 FIX D247C FIX OVERFLY ABNB AT OR ABOVE 5600 TURN RIGHT DIRECT FIX INNNB AT OR ABOVE 9400 SPEED 154 FIX KPT39 AT OR ABOVE 11500 FIX D152V FIX KPTSID OBED2J RNW 08 FIX D247C FIX ABNB FIX OEJ AT OR ABOVE 4800 FIX D065G AT OR ABOVE 6700 TRK 065 UNTIL 9500 FIX OVERFLY D136A TURN LEFT DIRECT FIX RTTNB HOLD AT FIX RTTNB RIGHT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 226 ALT 9500 LEGTIME 1 FIX OBEDISID RAST3J RNW 08 FIX D247C FIX ABNB FIX OEJ AT OR ABOVE 4800 FIX D065G AT OR ABOVE 6700 TRK 065 UNTIL 9500 FIX OVERFLY D136A TURN LEFT DIRECT FIX RTTNB HOLD AT FIX RTTNB RIGHT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 226 ALT 9500 LEGTIME 1 FIX RASTASID RTT1W RNW 08 FIX D247C FIX ABNB AT OR ABOVE 5000 FIX D073F AT OR ABOVE 6900 FIX RTTNBSID RTT2J RNW 08 FIX D247C FIX ABNB FIX OEJ AT OR ABOVE 4800 FIX D065G AT OR ABOVE 6700 TRK 065 UNTIL 9500 FIX OVERFLY D136A TURN LEFT DIRECT FIX RTTNB HOLD AT FIX RTTNB RIGHT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 226 ALT 9500 LEGTIME 1SID RTT2X RNW 26 FIX WI005 AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX WI006 AT OR ABOVE 5450 FIX WI007 AT OR ABOVE 6750 TURN LEFT DIRECT FIX WI008 SPEED 165 FIX WI006 FIX WI005 FIX WI103 FIX WI002 FIX WI001 AT OR ABOVE 11500SID UNKE1J RNW 08 FIX D247C FIX ABNB FIX OEJ AT OR ABOVE 4800 FIX D065G AT OR ABOVE 6700 TRK 065 UNTIL 9500 FIX OVERFLY D136A TURN LEFT DIRECT FIX RTTNB HOLD AT FIX RTTNB RIGHT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 226 ALT 9500 LEGTIME 1 FIX UNKENENDSIDSSTARSSTAR BREN2A FIX BRENO FIX INNNB FIX RTTNB RNW 08 RNW 26STAR BREN2B FIX BRENO FIX KTINB RNW 08 RNW 26STAR ELME1A FIX ELMEM FIX KTINB RNW 08 RNW 26STAR RAST4A FIX RASTA FIX NANIT FIX RTTNB RNW 08 RNW 26STAR SBG3A FIX SBG FIX RTTNB RNW 08 RNW 26STAR TULS3A FIX TULSI FIX RTTNB RNW 08 RNW 26ENDSTARSAPPROACHESAPPROACH LLZ26 FIX CL26 AT OR ABOVE 9500 FIX FL26 AT OR ABOVE 9500 FIX ML26 4414 RNW 26 HDG 254 VECTORS TRANSITION RTT FIX RTTNB AT OR ABOVE 9500 TRK 210 INTERCEPT RADIAL 254 TO FIX CL26APPROACH RNAV08 FIX WI801 AT OR ABOVE 10300 FIX WI802 AT OR ABOVE 9000 FIX OVERFLY WI804 6000 RNW 08 FIX WI006 AT OR ABOVE 6000 FIX WI005 FIX WI103 FIX WI001 11500 HOLD AT FIX WI001 RIGHT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 226 LEGTIME 1 TRANSITION ELMEM FIX ELMEM AT OR ABOVE 13000APPROACH RNAV26 FIX WI002 AT OR ABOVE 9500 FIX WI103 AT OR ABOVE 3320 RNW 26 FIX WI005 AT OR ABOVE 2310 FIX WI006 FIX WI007 TURN LEFT DIRECT FIX WI008 SPEED 165 FIX WI006 FIX WI005 FIX WI103 FIX WI002 FIX WI001 11500 HOLD AT FIX WI001 RIGHT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 226 LEGTIME 1 TRANSITION WI001 FIX WI001 AT OR ABOVE 9500ENDAPPROACHES Peter Frey LSZH
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