Overclock for FSX

[josemartinic 1]

Hi, I will like to post this topic because I saw many, many options available, and also confusing, about buying a gaming PC, believe I am expending hours trying to find, first the best PC config (hardware) available for FSX, and second the best vendor to provide it, I am worried becasuse I know the system HAS TO BE overclocked but which will be the best processor to overclock?, which value will be the best and safest to do it? who can perform a thursted overclocked on the USA? are there any FSX especialist PC builders on USA or america? I found some of them on UK but I cant buy from them so I am searching for soemthing similar on America.

 

The system I am trying to buy is:

 

Motherboard: ASUS Rampage IV

Processor: I7 3930K overclocked to 4,5-5,2 GHz

RAM: 16 GB 1800 KHz or something (sorry dont remenber exactly)

GPU: Nvidia GTX680 4GB

HDD 1 TB for OS

SSD 256 GB FSX dedicated.

Watercooled.

 

What do you think about it?

 

 

[charleslee201 19]

wow   go for it  very good setup   don't forget  the  cpu cooler 

[fro2do 10]

Your are on the correct path but if you do not know how to over clock you can possibly

damage this expensive system learn about over clocking do some research

hope this helps

 

P.s 

think about your Monitors their important as well

 

CARLO

[Boomer 1,619]

FSX will *NOT* make good use of a video card that expensive, unless you are playing other games that will use the video card (most nowadays will), save on the video card.

[PieEater 10]

I have to question whether you need a 6 core hyperthreaded CPU, you wont get any benefit with FSX or for most games. Obviously if you have lots of money and want the best you can get then thats a different matter.

 

A lot of people have moved from fairly high end cards to GTX680s and said that they feel FSX has benefited, so it may be a good option again if cost is not an issue, whether or not you need the 4GB version comes down to what resolution you will be using.

 

I would seriously recommend installing your operating system and programs onto a SSD, not just FSX. If you feel that you need 256GB just for FSX then maybe get 2 x 256GB SSDs or a single larger one.

 

If you want to buy a pre-built pre-overclocked system then your best bet would be first to find the company you want to use and then see what options are available to you. Maybe post back with a link to their site and ask for people to suggest the best build for your budget.

[flyerboy 114]

fsx = $10

computer to run fsx = $3000

constant tweaking and overclocking because of bad frame rates = priceless

[lodestar 186]

Hi, I will like to post this topic because I saw many, many options available, and also confusing, about buying a gaming PC, believe I am expending hours trying to find, first the best PC config (hardware) available for FSX, and second the best vendor to provide it, I am worried becasuse I know the system HAS TO BE overclocked but which will be the best processor to overclock?, which value will be the best and safest to do it? who can perform a thursted overclocked on the USA? are there any FSX especialist PC builders on USA or america? I found some of them on UK but I cant buy from them so I am searching for soemthing similar on America.

 

The system I am trying to buy is:

 

Motherboard: ASUS Rampage IV

Processor: I7 3930K overclocked to 4,5-5,2 GHz

RAM: 16 GB 1800 KHz or something (sorry dont remenber exactly)

GPU: Nvidia GTX680 4GB

HDD 1 TB for OS

SSD 256 GB FSX dedicated.

Watercooled.

 

What do you think about it?

 

Excelent. Buy good PSU - at least 850w and rated 80+ gold, and good CPU cooler.

Graphic card is excelent choice, and it's not "overkill" if you plan to use Addons, REX, HD textures etc.

If you are going to use this PC only for FSX, you don't need more than 8GB RAM, just check compatibility with mainboard and CPU and search for 2 sticks RAM(better for OC) with good latency.

SSD FSX dedicated should be bigger in my opinion. If 500GB is expensive, go for 120GB SSD only for OS + 1-2 TB fast HDD - something by Western digital, WD black or VelociRaptor, there is no difference in fsx performance between this HDDs and SSD, just faster loading with SSD when you start FSX. Checked and confirmed by me last week I bought 1TB WD black for FSX

 

BTW, you did well, - great hardware choice!

[Great Ozzie 101]

FSX will *NOT* make good use of a video card that expensive

 

I sincerely hope you are giving this advice based on empirical testing.

 

@@josemartinic

 

I would read what NickN @ SimForums talks about for video card selection:

 

http://www.simforums.com/forums/moved-new-video-cards_topic45352.html?KW=hardware

 

 

I have to question whether you need a 6 core hyperthreaded CPU, you wont get any benefit with FSX or for most games.

 

Again... have a look at what Nick says regarding 6-core cpus.

 

 

http://www.simforums.com/forums/memeory-timings-vs-speed_topic41484_post246676.html#246676

 

 

the best vendor to provide it

 

I have never purchased from Falcon Northwest (tho very close once)... but "in the past" their systems have had very good reviews.

 

I suppose if I had $5000 burning a hole in my pocket, I might purchase their Mach V -  that is what it would (roughly) cost you based on your specs above.  Go have a look at their configurator for the Mach V:

 

http://build.falcon-nw.com/?s=1

[PieEater 10]

 

Again... have a look at what Nick says regarding 6-core cpus.

 

 

http://www.simforums.com/forums/memeory-timings-vs-speed_topic41484_post246676.html#246676

 

Admittedly I'm not in the position to be able to speak from experience regarding 6 Core CPUs but I know that;

• The main FSX sim engine can only run on one core and the remaining cores are utilised solely for processing textures and autogen.
• With each additional core used there is a measurable drop in FPS.

So I can understand that a 6 core CPU would potentially facilitate a smoother FSX experience in terms of texture rendition but given the above this would be at the cost of a noticeable drop in FPS.

 

Unfortunately Nick doesn't explain how a 6 core CPU is better for FSX he just staes it as fact. I can only suppose that the additional 4MB of L3 cache somehow compensates for the inherant relationship between cores in use and drop in FPS but the L3 pool is essentially 2MB per core which is the same as a 4 core i7 (12MB vs 8MB).

 

Given Nick's greater knowledge and experience I'm happy to bow to his advice but it would be useful to know how much better 6 cores are over 4 and how this works given the constraints of FSX.

[josemartinic 1]

I began reading what you all recommend me and of course I have many doubts, please can you watch this youtube video, for me it was the most clear and easy I found, please based on your experience will you twll meif its correct, if something is missing, if I need to setup something more/diferent, and for my final decision on what to buy I hace two options I7 3770k or I7 2700 k considering best OC thinking always in best performance for FSX?

 

 

 

[PieEater 10]

If you are going to be getting an Asus P8Z77-V Pro and 3770K then the video provides some good information, but even if you have the same parts you cannot guarantee that will get the same results and be able to use the same settings as someone else. If you are not going to get the P8Z77-V Pro and 3770K then there will be more relevant information and similar videos for whatever you do end up getting. But before you get too concerned about how you're going to overclock your new system you need to decide what it is you will be getting first. In your position I would be waiting a few weeks for the next generation Haswell CPUs to be released, it looks possible that these will offer slightly better performance at the same speeds whilst also having better overclocking potential.

 

In the meantime, if you are still planning on buying a pre-built system, you could be researching who you will be buying from, whether they will overclock the system for you, what warranty they give and finally what hardware options they have available to you.

[gizmosellsbunnys 106]

fsx = $10

computer to run fsx = $3000

constant tweaking and overclocking because of bad frame rates = priceless

The truth is spoken 

[lodestar 186]

Actually, there are some alternatives:

 - fsx = $10

 - computer to run fsx = $1800

 - constant tweaking and overclocking because of bad frame rates = just once, using right guides - if you add Acronis True Image 2011 for backup = 19$ http://kitsoft.net/browse/search/?q=acronis+true+image