Under a thread posted on the forum regarding running MSFS under two drives the topic went as they often do onto a different subject.This involved a discussion on the Primus 1000 navigation system which I was having with Bill Leeming of Eaglesoft.As I fly a Citation Bravo with primus 1000 real world I used some real world pics to add colour and realism to the discussion.I found that these shots had been removed by the administrator.I do not have the creative computer skills that many here have and am known for adding Real world shots to bring a flavour and colour into the forum over a number of years.I personally feel that it is important to have a connection between our sim world and reality and to use real world shots to add to the forum discussions as well as influencing those with creative computer skills to make our sims more real.The screen shot forum is for screenshots. Real world pictures are not screenshots and in my opinion are a vital requirement in some FS forum discussions as well as keeping that all important connection between the sim and reality."A Picture paints a thousand words" is not far from the truth.And maybe this needs a wider discussion to clarify what is wanted in the forum?Peterhttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/92423.jpg

I'm guessing that if they were deleted, they are not allowed. Why not upload them to your webspace and leave a link to them as you have done in the past?

"I'm guessing that if they were deleted, they are not allowed"Hence this posting.I can fully understand "screenshots" not being allowed becuase the whole forum would be clogged.Real world shots are few and far between and a mere scattering in numbers compared to FS screenshots.It is easy for me to save myself a lot of trouble by not posting Real world pictures if as you put it "they are not allowed" and do not add to this forums discussionsPeter

>It is easy for me to save myself a lot of trouble by not>posting Real world pictures if as you put it "they are not>allowed" and do not add to this forums discussionsPerhaps you should email one of the moderators for the definitive answer.

"Perhaps you should email one of the moderators for the definitive answer."EdamI have posted a moderator but this very topic was discussed some nine months ago and the descision then was that real world pictures were allowed to be posted as long as they were part of a discussion in the forum and used to add to that discussion as well as not exceeding the permissable posts.Hence my confusion and wish for clarification on what I consider to be an important addition to the forum.Real world pictures are rarely posted and I wish more people would post as they were useful in inspiring changes especially with weather and clouds in Fly! courtesy of Dure and many other more realistic changes made by many talented people here.Maybe things have changed in those nine odd months or such shots are no longer wanted? Infact the thread then was lively and this one isnt so maybe im off track now with whats wanted ?CheersPeter

I agree 100% Peter. They add greatly to discussion, make the forum alive.http://mywebpages.comcast.net/geofa/pages/rxp-pilot.jpghttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/92475.jpg

"I agree 100% Peter. They add greatly to discussion, make theforum alive."...amd make us envious! LOL I agree also, here they encourage real world shots in the SS forum, over at Flightsim they make you post them in the outer market forum (learned that the hard way ;-) )Geofa, I especially like your FS/RW comparison shots, very enlightening.Regards, MichaelKDFWhttp://www.calvirair.com/mcpics/PBTMCa.jpgCalVirAir International VACalVirAir International

A thread full of pictures is very tedious when loading over a dialup connection. Worse than the time involved is the way the page changes length as the browser learns the image heights at irregular intervals. this occurs weather the images are on Avsim servers or on a seperate image hosting server. We expect that sort of thing with the screenshot forum, but in other forums a warning about the images in the thread's subject would be apreciated. I would suggest adding (bb) to the subject.Is Avsim still deleteing images uploaded to their server a couple of weeks after they are uploaded to conserve hard drive space?

As someone who had a lowly 12,000 dial up connection until fairly recently-you can stop the page before the photo loads-or better yet select don't show photos in your browser?http://mywebpages.comcast.net/geofa/pages/rxp-pilot.jpg

Thanks-haven't done those in quite a while....hmmmm... :-)http://mywebpages.comcast.net/geofa/pages/rxp-pilot.jpg

GeofYours are a good example of adding to the realism especially your comparison shots which I always looked forward to.but we had a discussion on this a fair while back and as far as I remember it was decided that real world pictures could be used where they were part of or added to the discussion.I was out of the forums for some time since then so have to presume that this is no longer the case.In comparison to Screenshots Real world shots are a rarity and in my opinion should be encouraged.Also placing them in the Screenshots forum when they are NOT screenshots is also an incorrect forum.Having a facility which allows pictures to be posted in the FS forum doesnt make sense if there is no purpose to having that facility.If you dont want pictures then dont have an ability to add JPEGS or limit the amount of JPEGS that can be added which I thought was the case now.We had a very long thread where people were asked to put a picture to their faces. This was a fantastic contribution and was allowed although the postings went into hundreds.As you know there is a lot of work in taking and preparing these shots and they do allow those who are not as lucky as us to get a glimpse of the reality as well as a visual comparison for their own FS creations whether they be aircraft. terrain or clouds.Peter

Maybe there should be a RW shot forum for those that want to see those kinds of shots, kinda like an AVSIM airliners.net. I just got back from an airshow last weekend and I have about a 100 shots from some great aircraft that some might never get to see for real.http://www.calvirair.com/mcpics/BELL47.jpgRegards, MichaelKDFWhttp://www.calvirair.com/mcpics/PBTMCa.jpgCalVirAir International VACalVirAir International

Peter,nice to see one of your shots here. I really admire them. When I have a good visual and send a screenshot to a friend of mine in the US (we send us screenshots regularly to explain our flights to each other)I often refer to it as "looking like one of Peter Sidoli's shots".I agree that for posting screenshots just to show off some visuals there is a screenshots forum. But I would also agree that if they help to back up a topic or explain or compare they definitely should be allowed and usually are. That refers to photos and sreenshots.Usually these shots are allowed here as far as I can remember. But sometimes the mods are a little fast on the "move" trigger.I it was for me I would like get rid of half of the forums here and put them together in on larger forum anyway. Because it really helps to widen your horizon and gives you ideas in relation to simming. But that is only me. Alex

I am with you on the larger forum. It used to be that we became a community drawn by our interest in a particular sim. As such, discussions would often occur off topic-but great discussions that added to the sense of community. The Pro Pilot forum was such-and continues to be to the point now that there is hardly ever a sim discussion-but a strong community remains.I miss those days-too sterile for me now, and too particular.I frankly don't have the time in a day to scour the many, many forums that have become so specific. Because of this, I think a lot of growth is lost-I use to learn a lot by the varied and interesting discussions, and great personalities that would become attached to a particular sim-not a particular discussion.http://mywebpages.comcast.net/geofa/pages/rxp-pilot.jpg

Out of curiosity, did you host the pictures yourself, or upload them to their server? I wonder because if it was the latter, it is quite possible that someone else started linking them from another site. This problem is all too common when running any kind of web server, and can eat up a lot of bandwidth in a short time. I am just guessing though. I would agree that real-world pics are rare, and I welcome looking at them anytime someone posts them. Real world pics are great to look at, especially for those of us who don't have the means or opportunity to fly for real.