July 16, 201312 yr Hello guys yet another small issue that im hopping someone has a quick solution to. The guy im refering to is Roger Wensley he makes nice scenery available at the AVSIM libray the problem im having is texture loading, if i pan around the plane the sim jitters and pauses i can see its a texture problem considering i can litertly see the sim loading the texture on a building i can ignore it but if i pan every 10 seconds or so the problem presist.If i pan continuisly on a 360 degrees the problem goes away. It only happens on Roger Wensley scenery so far.......... is there a tweak or something that i can do to get rid of the issue.I've set my Global texture to low settings and yet still it gives me those annoying hiccups while is loading texture. Perhaps he uses a high resolution texture or something Here is an example of his work i took a couple of screenshot of my sim to show u guys better identify his work
July 16, 201312 yr Yes, I have used his scenery. I have also experienced stutters when flying anywhere near his Campbell River floats CAE3 in BC Canada for instance. Mike Mann
July 16, 201312 yr He does good work its a shame some (not all) off his work causes these stutters ive installed the scenery you mentioned i dint have all the required stuff so i removed it lol
July 16, 201312 yr I agree, it's disconcerting because in effect it results in FSX providing less stutters than FS9 on my low end system. :excl: Mike Mann
July 16, 201312 yr I have seen several of his addons that are full of DXT3 textures that are missing the Alpha flag. Fixing this is not complicated and has been discussed here a lot. regards, Joe The best gift you can give your children is your time.
July 16, 201312 yr I have seen several of his addons that are full of DXT3 textures that are missing the Alpha flag. Fixing this is not complicated and has been discussed here a lot. regards, Joe +1 When you get the missing alpha problem fixed, his stuff runs as smooth as glass. The only scenery of his I still can't get the stutters out of,sadly, is CYTZ. Learn how to fix the missing alphas here: http://forum.avsim.net/topic/382519-a-huge-fps-increase/
July 16, 201312 yr The only scenery of his I still can't get the stutters out of,sadly, is CYTZ. If you are using his Porter AI, they have the same problem. Fixing the scenery and AI results in CYTZ running smooth for me. As always, YMMV. regards, Joe The best gift you can give your children is your time.
July 16, 201312 yr It's more than missing alphas. His models are not well optomized. One important factor to performance in all realms of FS stuff is number of drawcalls. When I've looked at his models with ModelConverterX, I've frequently found around 5 drawcalls for each buliding... even if it is a simple little shack. That drags down FPS in a hurry! For comparison, the special detailed default FSX airports like Berlin Tempelhof or Vancouver BC are able to build whole terminals with ground equipment as a single object with a single drawcall! So I can convert and use complex FSX scenery in FS9, but I can't use his simple little farm strips...
July 16, 201312 yr It's more than missing alphas. His models are not well optomized. One important factor to performance in all realms of FS stuff is number of drawcalls. When I've looked at his models with ModelConverterX, I've frequently found around 5 drawcalls for each buliding... even if it is a simple little shack. That drags down FPS in a hurry! For comparison, the special detailed default FSX airports like Berlin Tempelhof or Vancouver BC are able to build whole terminals with ground equipment as a single object with a single drawcall! So I can convert and use complex FSX scenery in FS9, but I can't use his simple little farm strips... so im guessing theres no fix for this? 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July 16, 201312 yr HAHA I love you guys Thanks for the tip about missing Alpha's and Joe for the tip about the Porter AI after running the Missing alpha utility as you can see the results above i can fully pan around the aircraft and as its smooth as butter thanks for your help Really worked (and here i thought my computer was dying on me)
July 16, 201312 yr Here are the final results, this area had a lot of hiccups it would freeze a bit then continue the if i stopped panning for about 10 seconds it woild stutter again after running the missing alpha utility i have these are the final result Conclusion You guys are great thanks for your help now i can enjoy his scenery and not worry about the stutters Link below for video results after fixing the alpha channels CLICK THIS LINK FOR THE RESULTS --->>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBWMevg22PQ&feature=youtu.be
July 16, 201312 yr Hmm. I'm glad it worked for you. I struggled with his Valdez AK scenery for AGES and was never able to eliminate the stutters. Same with his sceneries for the Anchorage area. And what a pity it is! Well, I'm reinstalling FS9 from scratch starting sometime this week. We'll see if things can be made better with a fresh install! But what I said about drawcalls is still true - maybe all of your systems are simply powerful enough that it doesn't matter to you?
July 16, 201312 yr But what I said about drawcalls is still true - maybe all of your systems are simply powerful enough that it doesn't matter to you? My situation is the same as yours. If the modeller gets sloppy with excessive drawcalls or carried away with too many polygons my FS9 gets the stutters. Mike Mann
July 17, 201312 yr My situation is the same as yours. If the modeller gets sloppy with excessive drawcalls or carried away with too many polygons my FS9 gets the stutters. Really worked the list above shows all the missing alphas and i replaced them all using the alpha chanel utility as you can see on my video ling up top on the best anser section no more stutters :lol: Hmm. I'm glad it worked for you. I struggled with his Valdez AK scenery for AGES and was never able to eliminate the stutters. Same with his sceneries for the Anchorage area. And what a pity it is! Well, I'm reinstalling FS9 from scratch starting sometime this week. We'll see if things can be made better with a fresh install! But what I said about drawcalls is still true - maybe all of your systems are simply powerful enough that it doesn't matter to you? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBWMevg22PQ&feature=youtu.be <<<<<<theres the video link after i ran the alpha channel utiliy :lol:
July 17, 201312 yr Can't believe you guys. Roger Wensley complains of people not providing feedback direct to him, you will see this in his "read me's". He has on numerous occasions directly helped me, so instead of rambling on about his scenery, email him, tell him your problems, he can't fix what he doesn't know. Echofox
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