Cologne-Bonn Int. to Brisbane Int. Non-Stop possible?

[maukro_1990 38]

Hello!

 

I´m so happy that i can fly the awesome PMDG 777-200LR soon. My dream is to flying from Cologne-Bonn (EDDK) to Brisbane international Airport in australia NON-STOP (about 16167 KM) ! Is it possible to fly this route with about 301 passengers and headwind? 

 

Theoretical, i could fly a range of about 17400 KM with full Pax and cargo, right?

 

 

 

 

[machine2035 176]

Hello!

 

I´m so happy that i can fly the awesome PMDG 777-200LR soon. My dream is to flying from Cologne-Bonn (EDDK) to Brisbane international Airport in australia NON-STOP (about 16167 KM) ! Is it possible to fly this route with about 301 passengers and headwind? 

 

Theoretical, i could fly a range of about 17400 KM with full Pax and cargo, right?

Just ran it through, and with 301PAX, 4500KG worth of cargo (Cargo + Baggage), and no planned alternate you could make it (RAMP FUEL of 134300KG's, with a total flight time of 18 hours 1 minute [1801]).

 

Initial altitude of F230...definately heavy.

 

Route I ran had a tailwind component of 11kts today and was a 2% increase from great-circle direct.

 

I think you could make it B)

[Don t moderate me this way 882]

If you think you can't make it - there will be a (re-)fuelling option available even in flight, Maurice!  

[machine2035 176]

If you think you can't make it - there will be a (re-)fuelling option available even in flight, Maurice!  

PMDG contracted some KC135's eh....sneaky company they are :He He: :He He:

[davidz 26]

no planned alternate

 

Too bad Brisbane only has one suitable runway so EU-OPS wouldn't let you do that... time to use CASA's CAAP 234-1 rules and hope the weather doesn't go south like it did for Qantas the other month  :Whistle:

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PMDG contracted some KC135's eh....sneaky company they are :He He: :He He:

 

 

The (M)CDU refuelling option will be cheaper.  

 

And I highly recommend either Cairns or Canberra as alternates!!!  

[machine2035 176]

The (M)CDU refuelling option will be cheaper.  

 

And I highly recommend either Cairns or Canberra as alternates!!!  

Gold Coast is around the corner...actually Gold Coast itself is a good reason to divert there...Clubs, girls and booze :Party:

[Don t moderate me this way 882]

Gold Coast is around the corner...actually Gold Coast itself is a good reason to divert there...Clubs, girls and booze :Party:

 

 

Interesting: When I named those alternates I was thinking about "sightseeing" rather than operations myself!  

 

(Sorry about that, Jane ...)

[asdro 13]

For those who are interested. Turkish Airlines is going to be the first airline that will offer nonstop flights from europe to australia. They want to order 777-200LR for flights between Istanbul and australia.

[blackbird971 2]

Can you tell me guys how long will it be possible for these filghts and the max pax/fuel load for those 2 please ? EGLL-TKPK and TFFR-LFPO ?

[Chrjs 61]

According to a Boeing-advertisement the "777-200LR, as the world's longest-range commercial jetliner, is capable of connecting virtually any two city pairs around the globe." Now we just have to discuss what "virtually" means.....

 

http://www.boeing.com/boeing/commercial/777family/pf/pf_background.page

[machine2035 176]

Can you tell me guys how long will it be possible for these filghts and the max pax/fuel load for those 2 please ? EGLL-TKPK and TFFR-LFPO ?

Both flights planned at max payload (ZFW: 209t) using todays GRIB data (weather) and no alternates (which is probably against the fuel rules of the registration of a/c). Also using ETOPS330;

 

EGLL-TKPK | TTL EET: 7hr47min | FUEL: 65.2t

TFFR-LFPO | TTL EET: 7hr53min | FUEL : 63.2t

[3-2-1-Now 126]

Now we just have to discuss what "virtually" means.....

It means max fuel, no reserves, no payload, and tail winds all the way.

 

Best regards,

Robin.

[Chrjs 61]

It means max fuel, no reserves, no payload, and tail winds all the way.

 

Best regards,

Robin.

 And i guess two airports that can handle a 777, which narrows the potential airports down quite a bit.....

 

I would call that a nice advertisement trick -. not really realistic unless you want to ferry around your (empty) new baby to show off.... :lol:

[blackbird971 2]

Both flights planned at max payload (ZFW: 209t) using todays GRIB data (weather) and no alternates (which is probably against the fuel rules of the registration of a/c). Also using ETOPS330;

 

EGLL-TKPK | TTL EET: 7hr47min | FUEL: 65.2t

TFFR-LFPO | TTL EET: 7hr53min | FUEL : 63.2t

 

Nice to hear that ! There is for both a alternate destination EGLL-TKPK altn is TAPA and TFFR-LFPO altn is LFPG ! But thanks anyways !