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Ask about the 777 and Fs passenger

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Hello :) 

 

I need a good help to fly this airplane.

 

 

-1 Im actually with the 777 PMDG and i can't do a fine landing, I don't understand very well the configuration of the approach in this plane too...Im using Fs passenger.

 

So if i stay in vnav for the descent the FMC take me at 240kts for 3000ft in my STAR point, what is that?

 

Actually, im put 220kt in the auto-pilot when i pass 5000ft flying with lnav but to reduce his speed, he stay so much highter than the flight descent approach and i can't landing as well, so how are you configuring the approach to the STAR in the FMC?

 

 

 

-2 When you are doing the flare?

 

Landing with Fs passenger i always explode my gear... with my MD-11 the landing touchdown is always between -350ft/mn and -200ft/mn doing the flare at 20ft above the runway.

 

 

-3 What power do you enter in your cost index for a short and medium flight?

 

Im flying very slowly in CRZ about 420 and 440 groundspeed with cost index 80 or 100///the MD-11 with a CI at 100 can go at 520 easy.

 

 

Help me to understand this plane.

Florian Bloisi

VAFS 777 Qualified Captain 

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Yes i saw video on youtube too and the plane seem to be landing fine but they don't show what they put in the FMC to do a good approach (im using route finder to do my flight plan)

 

 

I just need answers for my 3 ask to do a good landing no more.

Florian Bloisi

VAFS 777 Qualified Captain 

The T7 is very different from, say, the NGX:

 

  • You have to manage the energy level of your T7 very actively. Being too high and too fast is worse with the T7 than it is with the NGX.
  • The FMC doesn't calculate your landing speeds in the LEGS page (that's where your speed restrictions show up and are adhered to in VNAV). LEGS page shows speeds that are way higher than what you want for landing . It's the pilots' job to speed-intervene and to slow the T7 down for landing.

 

Details can be found in the documentation ...

What happened to AVSIM

Well, with or without FSPassenger, the process of approach is the same.

 

When you are making final approach, make sure your speed is around 180 knots or less, also you have LOC button selected.

When localizer is active follow Glideslope or press APP button. 

Reduce your speed down manually down close to VREF. I usually come down to VREF+10 Speed.

Bilal Asif Khan

Follow the tutorials, the video here and the written one in the docs, and you should be fine with FSPAX.  I've yet to blow the wheels with a heavy landing.

Paul Skol

i use this:

 

VREF+5 (if winds calm)

 

or

 

VREF+(headwind devided by 2) (if head wind higher than 11 knots)

 

...for an autoland, i make shure configured for landing early enough, i dont forget arming the speedbrakes and autobrake, i choose a landing flap position in APPROACH REF page.

 

...i dont use the cold&dark FMC situation from the release version (it is broken), i created a new one from the short haul situation (loaded that, secureeeeed the aircraft, switched off powers), holded the fmc menue button til it got activated again and saved this own created cold&dark situation as my personal one, i dont forgot setting this new situation as default startup situation in the FMC, i reloaded the plane.

 

 

JG

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Sorry but i always flew the PMDG MD-11 which is so much easy than this T7, and i would like to understand.

 

 

For a short trip and 200 passengers on board i think too 180KT is a good approach speed, i will try that.

 

 

For a cost index at 80 and CRZ ALT FL320 the T/D is about 120mn the airport.

Now if i tell restriction speed on the FMC with this sample example: (it's an example not real waypoint)

 

DAVEK(the star) 270/12000 

                 20mn                 

VGO                    240/7000

                 15mn

NOSIK                 210/4000

                   7mn

CI02                    180/3000

 

FINALairport

 

 

The plane must be reduce the speed at the waypoint selected all right? the T7 take a time to reduce his speed and i don't want to be too highter in the descent.

 

 

What cost index do you put? and i would like to know if i make a good choice to manage the speed in CRZ or let the FMC manage the speed?

 

 

Thanx a lot

Florian Bloisi

VAFS 777 Qualified Captain 

For a short trip and 200 passengers on board i think too 180KT is a good approach speed, i will try that.

 

Hi Koala,

 

perhaps iam not in the position to tell ya, and i dont like it to much... but it would maybe be a good idea to learn the basics first how to fly a jet... as i know (caution iam no real live pilot) 170 to 180 knots seams always the common speed a jet should do on an standard VISUAL, NAVDME, RNAV or ILS approach while on final (entering or turning to final maybe 210), until you reach the outer marker and that should be the very very last position slowing down to VREF, of course you can slow down earlyer, but depends also on ATC and traffic (some controllers want your speed @180 until reaching OM because of much traffic). but beware, if you plan an autoland using the 777, slowing down @ OM could be to late.

 

...this applays also if flying with 5 or 240 passengers dont matter, and realy dont matter if it is a long haul or short one.

 

VREF (VREFapp) is a variable speed which is calculated using the FMC and used short prior landing (touchdown).

 

 

JG

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1-  I try another configuration, i put speed restriction on the FMC and the plane is doing what i want.But the problem begin between 3000ft and the runway, im too highter in short final because to reduce his speed he doesn't descent anymore... and finaly im too hight.How i can fix this problem?

 

2-  I don't want auto-land so i do the flare 20ft above the runway and if i do that the plane doesn't touchdown the runway, so i will try 10ft next time disconnecting AT/R when i hear minimum (by default 400ft)

Florian Bloisi

VAFS 777 Qualified Captain 

  • Author

Ok this twice i ve got it !  :rolleyes:  making a good approach :)

Florian Bloisi

VAFS 777 Qualified Captain 

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I was reducing speed to later and doing the flare to earlier, i do another fly and my apporach and landing was good too -308ft/mn  ^_^ topic solved

Florian Bloisi

VAFS 777 Qualified Captain 

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