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This question is for anyone running FS Global 2010. I just received it today and installed it , total install was only about 2.5 hrs, which I understand was very quick. It should have been 21 GB for this FSX  install but my final is only 19.3 GB. 2275 files 16 folders.  When the second disc was loading it only ran for a few minutes before it asked for the third.  6 discs total.

 

Does this sound right?  All the correct folders show up in the scenery library but I'm wondering if there are   some files that didn't get loaded from that second disc.

 

any ideas?

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You are OK.

 

Go and enjoy your new realistic worldwide terrain.

 

Now approaches to airports within/near mountainous terrain will be as they should have been from the beginning.

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How long are your load times with global 2010. Mine gets stuck at 6% for ages. I also don't have 16 folders, I have about 6 and 14gb a data. The mesh seems to be fine though. I have just never had time to look into it properly.

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Its installed correctly ..thanks. My load times haven't changed and honestly the scenery hasn't changed much at all. I even moved the slider from 1 to 10 ms..no differences.

 

To be honest I really don't see much difference since adding this to FTX Global. It simply shuffles the peaks around a bit.

 

I should have just skipped this purchase and spent the 100 bucks on some regions.

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Interesting. I have FSX default installed on my laptop I just compared a couple of locations with FTX Global on my desktop with all fSGlobal2010 unchecked..big difference.

 

I do believe if you are running FTX Global instead of FSX Default you aren't going to see much of a change in the terrain after adding FS Global 2010.

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Global does nothing to mesh so he should be seeing a massive difference.

Not seeing it .

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Not seeing it .

 

Because you are flying in flat areas and at airports away from mountains.

 

Go to fly in mountaineous areas and airports near mountains or on plateaus, and you will see great differences.

 

Some such airports:

 

OAKB, LATI, UDYZ, LOWG, LOWI, LOWS, SLLP, LQMO, LQSA, LBSF, GVNP, SCFA, SCAR, SCCF, SCAT, SCDA, SCSE, SCEL, ZULS, ZUNZ, ZWWW, SKBO, SKCL, MROC, LDDU, LDSP, LDZD, MDPP, MDST, SEQM, MSLP, FGSL, HHMS, HAAB, LFLB, LFKJ, UGTB, UGKO, LGBL, LGSA, LGHI, LGIO, LGIR, LGKA, LGKL, LGKF, LGKZ, LGMT, LGSM, LGST, BGSF, BGBW, BGTL, MGGT, MTPP, MHTG, WAMM, OIKB, OIFM, OIKK, OISS, ORER, LLET, LIEE, OJAQ, UAAA, HKJK, RKPC, OLBA, FXMM, LWSK, LWOH, FIMP, MMHO, MMLP, MMMX, MMMY, MMPR, MMSD, MMTJ, ZMUB, LYPG, LYTV, FYWH, VNKT, VQPR, NZCH, NZWN, NZQN, MNMG, ENBR, ENBO, ENEV, ENNA, ENSB, ENTC, ENVA, AYNZ, AYPY, SPIM, LPPD, HRYR, LYNI, LZIB, LZKZ, LJLJ, LJMB, LECO, LEAL, LEBB, LEPP, LERS, LESO, GCXO, LEVC, FDMS, LSGG, LSZH, OSLK, UTAA, HTKJ, LTAC, LTAI, LTBJ, LTFE, LTCG, LTBS, KJAC, PAJN, KONT, SVMI, SVVA.

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wow...did you type all that! ROFL!

 

You should see massive differences outside of the US. Fly around in Latin America, Asia, Africa and you will be shocked by the differences.

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Nope , flew all over Asia and compared shots from before FS Global2010 and after only difference is the airport elevations get messed up. So you use the flattening tool and it puts it back in the original place.

 

I have FTXG installed and honestly it's so minimal adding FSGlobal to it it's not worth the 20GB added to your HD. 100 bucks wasted . I don't care what people say FTXG has it's own updated mesh from default FSX.

 

I posted shots in the Orbx release forum.

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Mesh equals elevation data.

 

FTX Global has absolutely nothing to do with mesh. You are grossly misinformed and living a placebo seeing elevation differences with FTX Global.

 

On the other hand, FS Global 2010 (and ultimate) do have elevation data (that's all they are), and make massive difference to how you see terrain around you -> just as it is in reality.


 

 


wow...did you type all that! ROFL!

 

I don't see why you laugh. That post was meant to be very very serious.

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^I wasn't actually ROFLing...but I respect that you take the hobby seriously...so do I.

 

@DoubleJ

Its more about accuracy of the data vs elevation, although that may factor in at times. But I should add, that I do agree with one thing. The amount of airport elevation issue's that I encountered resulted in me doing without these products...and personally I haven't really thought about it much anymore. Especially as developers like Orbx realease there own embeded mesh.

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The amount of airport elevation issues...

 

These are not issues.

 

The airports were grossly at the wrong altitude themselves, to begin with.

 

As was the terrain around them.

 

So when the terrain around them was positioned at the correct altitude (due to a product like FSGlobal2010 for example), it is natural for the grossly-wrong elevated airport to appear this way.

 

All you have to do is fix the airport's elevation with ADEX, which is very easy and can be done in literally two minutes.

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All you have to do? If it's that easy, why doesn't FSGlobal do it. For $100 bucks for mesh software, I paid somebody to do that. I respect the fact that they added a elevation fixer, but instead of developing that, they should have just applied the mesh elevation fixes to all that airports that require it in the base package. I never did quite understand that. It's a a lot of work, but that's a lot of money.

 

 

Regardless, it won't matter soon, because according to JV at Orbx, the upcoming Global Vector will work hand in hand with Global mesh and will provide elevation fixes for all 24K+ airports. If this is accurate, this will be a huge boost for mesh products.

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Regardless, it won't matter soon, because according to JV at Orbx, the upcoming Global Vector will work hand in hand with Global mesh and will provide elevation fixes for all 24K+ airports. If this is accurate, this will be a huge boost for mesh products.

 

Is there a link you can point to for this? This doesn't make any sense to me, as FTX-G Vector only lays down more accurate linear features (roads, rivers, coastlines  etc.)  on whatever mesh you are running - no correction for airports on the digital terrain model is included from what I have read so far...

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Simple question but;  Did you remember to run the Terrain Configuration Tool after install and tell it to switch from Default Terrain to FS Global terrain?   You should see all kinds of mad gains on this, even in the US.      I did a flight to KPIT-Pittsburg International and what was once a flat landing became what it should be; rolling hills and rivers that are actually dipped down in the terrain rather than being flat.   It was a stunning change in detail, even for 'FLAT' terrain.    The mountains near El Paso international look amazing now for me.

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Simple question but;  Did you remember to run the Terrain Configuration Tool after install and tell it to switch from Default Terrain to FS Global terrain?   You should see all kinds of mad gains on this, even in the US.      I did a flight to KPIT-Pittsburg International and what was once a flat landing became what it should be; rolling hills and rivers that are actually dipped down in the terrain rather than being flat.   It was a stunning change in detail, even for 'FLAT' terrain.    The mountains near El Paso international look amazing now for me.

Who were you directing that question to?

All you have to do? If it's that easy, why doesn't FSGlobal do it. For $100 bucks for mesh software, I paid somebody to do that. I respect the fact that they added a elevation fixer, but instead of developing that, they should have just applied the mesh elevation fixes to all that airports that require it in the base package. I never did quite understand that. It's a a lot of work, but that's a lot of money.

 

 

Regardless, it won't matter soon, because according to JV at Orbx, the upcoming Global Vector will work hand in hand with Global mesh and will provide elevation fixes for all 24K+ airports. If this is accurate, this will be a huge boost for mesh products.

Since Pilots and Orbx are working together on Vector I'm sure the only thing that will be used is the same data that's now provided with FS Global 2010. Run the disk and pick the airport ..flatten it...to make it look like FTX Global were you started from. I doubt Orbx is going to change that themselves they will just recycle it from Pilots.

 

Of course if you aren't running any mesh you won't need to flatten any airports.

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Is there a link you can point to for this? This doesn't make any sense to me, as FTX-G Vector only lays down more accurate linear features (roads, rivers, coastlines  etc.)  on whatever mesh you are running - no correction for airports on the digital terrain model is included from what I have read so far...

 

Post #238

 

You guys are not reading my posts smile.png

 

We are correcting the elevation of all 24,000 FSX airports. What that means is if you use a good quality mesh you will have no issues at. The FS Global 2008/2010/2012 all fall into this category and so does FSGenesis.

 

I hope this is clear now?

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Post #238

 

Ah, thanks - this is potentially really good news - though still interesting that the airport elevation adjustments might be wrapped in the "Vector" product, this would be fine by me, but JV states further down that thread that

 

"...It (Vector), only places roads, rivers, lakes, coastlines, parks, golf courses etc."

 

but if the adjustments get made, it will be nice to be able to upgrade the mesh without having to individually process messed up airports....

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Who were you directing that question to?

 

 

You.   You say you aren't getting any better details on your terrain after installing FS Global.   By default, FS Global does not turn on the new mesh automatically.   You have to go into the Terrain Configuation Tool that it installs under the PILOT'S menu in your Programs and tell it to switch to FS Global Terrain.   It will do a short little load then tell you to Save the new Terrain.cfg file it just made.  Click the save button and you should see majestic mountains, rolling hills and airports on the coast lines suspended 10k in the air.  :)     A separate tool they give you fixes that problem as you encounter it.   

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I'm getting details but they are minimal and yes it does show up in the scenery library where you can check it off or on.

 

Yes did the "terrain TOOL" .

 

If you aren't running FTX Global you won't see what I am seeing. Which is virtually nothing different from FTX Global and what really bugs me is in when you turn off FS Global it reverts all the way back to default FSX not FTXG.

 

read this post..

 

"Well, I'll be darned...! You are right! I loaded VQPR and I only have FTXG and default mesh and it looks exactly like your first picture!!! Well, this one has me speechless... Okay, maybe the airport elevation data sticks even when you disable FS Global but that should not have an impact on the mountains in the distance which look totally different from your FSX default screenshot AND the one with FS Global disabled... This is a mystery to me...! (And sorry I doubted you LOL!)

 

 

 

I would almost reinstall FSX completely to check how this all looks on my with FSX completely default...!

"

http://www.orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/64669-orbx-announces-ftx-global-vector-and-iceland-free-demo/page-18

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I am confused now.    Since when did FTXG do anything to the terrain mesh?   It's a texture and light replacer.    Uninstalling FS Global should have no impact on FTXG.  

 

I don't know what else to tell you.   I have both installed and the differences to me are quite noticeable in mountainous terrain and in hill country.  

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When I downloaded FS Global (the second zip file ie PILOTsFSG2010FTX.z01) using Internet Download Manager, it shows up in the file I downloaded with a 'page' icon vs. the little 'vice' icon normal for zip files.

 

Does this mean it did not download properly?

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When I downloaded FS Global (the second zip file ie PILOTsFSG2010FTX.z01) using Internet Download Manager, it shows up in the file I downloaded with a 'page' icon vs. the little 'vice' icon normal for zip files.

 

Does this mean it did not download properly?

 

See my reply to you post in the other "HOT" topic.

 

   Paul

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With reference to "You have to go into the Terrain Configuation Tool that it installs under the PILOT'S menu in your Programs and tell it to switch to FS Global Terrain.", Could you be more specific as to where the 'Terrain Configuration Tool can be found? I am not finding a 'Pilot's Menu'? Not sure what you mean by 'your Programs'?

Thanks


Never mind. I found it. Sorry to waste time.

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