Halfway through the tutorial flight I ran out of time and saved it. I came back to it the next day and it loaded up and everything was fine.

 

Next day I started a completely new flight and again, about halfway through, I saved it and it appeared to do so ok.

 

However, when I came to reload that saved flight a green band message came up saying "Destination airport not found in rte file. Import aborted." I had a look at the rte file for that flight and a destination airport and runway were in the file, in exactly the same format as in every other rte file. I shut down FSX re-started it and tried again to load that flight I had created but got exactly the same response.

 

So, I shut down FSX, re-started and elected to run the second half of the tutorial flight again, which I did, successfully.

 

The next day I decided to start a completely new flight having not made any changes to my PC since the previous day's flight. I started with the default screen (the microlight) loaded the T7, selected the starting airport and clicked "fly now". To my surprise the green message "Destination airport not found in rte file. Import aborted." came up. But at this point nothing had been entered into the FMC - a rte file for this flight did not yet exist.

 

The cockpit was dead and continually pressing the FMC menu button did not bring it to life. Also, looking in spot view at the outside of the aircraft, it is parked at the correct stand but with no landing gear, hovering above ground.

 

This is all that happens now when I try to load the T7. Other PMDG aircraft load up ok. I've deleted the rte files from the T7 folder where flights are saved but no joy.

 

I'm thinking that an uninstall and re-install of the T7 is probably the only thing that will fix it but I'm posting this in case someone else has the same problem and has found a solution.

 

If you have, please let me know!

 

Iain Smith

I always hit 'Fly now!' with the trike. When the trike and the flight situation have loaded, I load the saved flight instead. No issues for me.

Thanks for your response Olliver but, as I said, this is now happening whenever I load the T7 not on saved flights.

 

Iain

I always hit 'Fly now!' with the trike. When the trike and the flight situation have loaded, I load the saved flight instead. No issues for me.

I tend to get crashes at the end of very long flights with the T7. I see some people recommend saving if your vas usage gets very high. I tried saving before, but I am unable to load the flight back up. The system usually hangs. With the T7 are you selecting save a flight from the fsx menu? Do I need to save something in the FMC as well? My default startup state is C&D, so will all my engine throttle, fmc settings, etc be saved if I am at TOD? 

From your opening post I was under the impression you would load the T7 on the 'Fly now!' screen already? Not recommended. 'Fly now!' with a default aircraft (the trike is just fine) and change the aircraft when you're at the gate/on the runway.

 

When you save flights from the FSX menu (bar) the T7 saves with its panel state, FMC data and its route. No more to do for you. It's completely automatic. Saving works just the same; no worries there, either. (The correct panel states etc. are all identified via the file name you chose for saving.)

 

So the interesting question is what happens when you're in a flight situation with the trike already, and go for the T7 then?

From your opening post I was under the impression you would load the T7 on the 'Fly now!' screen already? Not recommended. 'Fly now!' with a default aircraft (the trike is just fine) and change the aircraft when you're at the gate/on the runway.

 

When you save flights from the FSX menu (bar) the T7 saves with its panel state, FMC data and its route. No more to do for you. It's completely automatic. Saving works just the same; no worries there, either. (The correct panel states etc. are all identified via the file name you chose for saving.)

 

So the interesting question is what happens when you're in a flight situation with the trike already, and go for the T7 then?

Yes, I have read PMDG does not recommend loading a default plane before theirs. I'm not so much interested in saving a flight while I am on the ground as I am in saving the flight midair when I am on a long haul route and need to step away. I'm not sure what would happen if I load my trike up at FL 410. 

Iain,

What is your default startup flight? Are you attempting to load your saved flight without exiting FSX and restarting? I am guessing no, since it is the next day, but just wanted to cover that base. You can't load a flight with the T7 on top of the T7, per the manual.

I had a similar problem to yours once after reloading a saved flight - the gauges didn't load and nothing was clickable, but I did not get the route message you describe. I never figured out why it happened, but it only happened once. Normally, I load a saved flight from the startup screen and it works fine.

If you don't figure out a solution, perhaps you could send a set of your saved flight files to PMDG.

 

I always hit 'Fly now!' with the trike. When the trike and the flight situation have loaded, I load the saved flight instead. No issues for me.

The Introduction manual specifically says not to load a default aircraft. It says (p. 29) that you should have the default flight set as your opening flight, but you don't need to actually load it -- it already loads in the background. It says that the necessity of loading a default Cessna first is a misconception and can actually cause problems. Presumably this applies to the ultralite as well. I have my startup as the ultralight/Friday Harbor, but I never actually load it. At the startup screen I choose the PMDG T7 I want to fly, the airport, wx, and then press fly now. I also load saved flights from this screen. No issues (except for the one-time experience with a saved flight as above).

Do I need to save something in the FMC as well? My default startup state is C&D, so will all my engine throttle, fmc settings, etc be saved if I am at TOD?

Red259,

Normally you don't have to separately load the FMC/panel state. Everything should be saved with a normal save operation. But occasionally I have found a reload of the panel/fmc state to be necessary. There will be a saved state accessible from "Load panel state" with the same name available as your saved file. However this file is located in FSX>PMDG>PMDG777X>panelstate. If the CDU goes blank, just hold your mouse on the menu button until it lights up.

You mention that your default startup state is C & D. If you are using the one that came with the T7, it is known to be buggy and scheduled to be fixed. So you should create your own from a different panel state.

Finally, I have found that I can switch from one T7 to another, or reload a T7 saved flight, by first switching to a stock Cessna. At 41000 feet or anywhere else, so long as crash detection is turned off. I think Tabs may have said this somewhere, not sure. But it works for me, and eliminates the need to shut down and restart FSX.

Mike

(...)  I have my startup as the ultralight/Friday Harbor, but I never actually load it. At the startup screen I choose the PMDG T7 I want to fly, the airport, wx, and then press fly now. I also load saved flights from this screen. No issues (except for the one-time experience with a saved flight as above).

 

That's where our findings differ, Mike: I experience problems when trying to load a saved flight from there. For me starting a flight with a default plane and switching planes later works better.

 

(...)

Finally, I have found that I can switch from one T7 to another, or reload a T7 saved flight, by first switching to a stock Cessna. At 41000 feet or anywhere else, so long as crash detection is turned off. I think Tabs may have said this somewhere, not sure. But it works for me, and eliminates the need to shut down and restart FSX.

 

You probably won't get your Cessna to FL410 'cause you never saved a flight with the Cessna at that altitude! You can start with the trike a couple of hundreds of feet above Friday Harbour at night in fair weather theme and, after that, load your saved flight with your Boeing at FL410 in daylight and (canned) real weather. No need to go from Cessna to Boeing at MACH 0.80!!!

 

You probably won't get your Cessna to FL410 'cause you never saved a flight with the Cessna at that altitude! You can start with the trike a couple of hundreds of feet above Friday Harbour at night in fair weather theme and, after that, load your saved flight with your Boeing at FL410 in daylight and (canned) real weather. No need to go from Cessna to Boeing at MACH 0.80!!!

 

Hi, Oliver,

 

I was responding to Red259 who was talking about trying to restore a saved flight by switching to the trike or some other default aircraft in mid-flight.  I rarely reach FL410 in a trike or Cessna  :rolleyes:!

 

But in some circumstances, it might be a good idea to load the Cessna at FL410.  For example, if a T7 saved flight is loaded with the T7 in mid-flight at cruise altitude, and there is a problem with the reloaded saved flight.  It MIGHT work to switch to the Cessna, switch back to the appropriate T7, use "Load panel State" in the CDU to load the panel state corresponding to the saved flight, and see if the problem is fixed.  Or, if the problem is with the panel state, it might work just to reload the flight plan and then manually set the plane to the right amount of fuel, engines on, etc.

 

Mike

 

 

From your opening post I was under the impression you would load the T7 on the 'Fly now!' screen already? Not recommended. 'Fly now!' with a default aircraft (the trike is just fine) and change the aircraft when you're at the gate/on the runway.

 

Oliver, I tried your suggestion and it made no difference. I have never done it that way with any PMDG aircraft and never had a problem.

 

Iain

 

 

What is your default startup flight? Are you attempting to load your saved flight without exiting FSX and restarting? I am guessing no, since it is the next day, but just wanted to cover that base. You can't load a flight with the T7 on top of the T7, per the manual.

 

Mike, all my attempts have been after re-starting FSX and I don't load the T7 on top of a T7 having done it once and had a problem.

 

It seems that this will remain a mystery. I think I'll go and uninstall the T7 and re-install it. I'm sure that will fix it and it's not too much work.

 

So thank you all for your responses but the topic is now closed.

 

Iain

Ok having said the topic was closed and that I was going to uninstall/reinstall I decided to have one more go, to try and find a reason/solution for future reference.

 

I reasoned that as the message keeps referring to a plan that it doesn't like there must still be a file for that route. I went into FSX/PMDG/PMDG777X/PanelState. In there I found a couple of files that I had missed, that related to the saved flights that had failed to re-load. I deleted those files started FSX got the spinning microlight, selected the 777 I wanted, the airport and time of day and everything started up normally. Problem solved!

 

Iain Smith 

 

 

I reasoned that as the message keeps referring to a plan that it doesn't like there must still be a file for that route. I went into FSX/PMDG/PMDG777X/PanelState. In there I found a couple of files that I had missed, that related to the saved flights that had failed to re-load. I deleted those files started FSX got the spinning microlight, selected the 777 I wanted, the airport and time of day and everything started up normally. Problem solved!

 

Iain, you inadvertently helped me solve a problem here.  All of a sudden my aircraft wouldn't load properly - no gauges and no landing gear.  Two reinstalls didn't fix the problem.  Then I read your post and remembered I had removed the .rte file that is part of my normal startup state (I didn't want it to load that particular route every time I start up on the ground).  Put it back and now it's back to normal.  Was about to file a support ticket too!  So thanks for reporting back your fix!

 

Mike

Hi, Oliver,

 

I was responding to Red259 who was talking about trying to restore a saved flight by switching to the trike or some other default aircraft in mid-flight.  I rarely reach FL410 in a trike or Cessna  :rolleyes:!

 

But in some circumstances, it might be a good idea to load the Cessna at FL410.  For example, if a T7 saved flight is loaded with the T7 in mid-flight at cruise altitude, and there is a problem with the reloaded saved flight.  It MIGHT work to switch to the Cessna, switch back to the appropriate T7, use "Load panel State" in the CDU to load the panel state corresponding to the saved flight, and see if the problem is fixed.  Or, if the problem is with the panel state, it might work just to reload the flight plan and then manually set the plane to the right amount of fuel, engines on, etc.

 

Mike

I reloaded a saved flight tonight. Even if I selected a cessna the 777 still was the plane that loaded up. The problem I had is that when the plane loaded up I was unable to move my camera for the first five minutes. Finally something gave and I was able to move my camera and land. 

 

 

I reloaded a saved flight tonight. Even if I selected a cessna the 777 still was the plane that loaded up. The problem I had is that when the plane loaded up I was unable to move my camera for the first five minutes. Finally something gave and I was able to move my camera and land.

 

Hi, Red259,

 

I'm unclear about what you loaded.  If you loaded a saved flight with the T7, then of course that is the plane that will load.   You should be starting FSX, seeing the ultralite with Friday Harbor, then clicking on "load" and loading your saved flight.  If you did that and had a problem, I'm not sure what to say.   If you have something other than the ultralite set as your default opening flight, that could be the problem.

 

I haven't experienced a problem with the view or anything else freezing for any length of time, but there is a well-known bug that some people have experienced where the plane just freezes, often for quite awhile.  PMDG's people say they are working on it.

 

Mike

Hi, Red259,

 

I'm unclear about what you loaded.  If you loaded a saved flight with the T7, then of course that is the plane that will load.   You should be starting FSX, seeing the ultralite with Friday Harbor, then clicking on "load" and loading your saved flight.  If you did that and had a problem, I'm not sure what to say.   If you have something other than the ultralite set as your default opening flight, that could be the problem.

 

I haven't experienced a problem with the view or anything else freezing for any length of time, but there is a well-known bug that some people have experienced where the plane just freezes, often for quite awhile.  PMDG's people say they are working on it.

 

Mike

I tried loading the cessna and it still defaulted to the 777. To be clear this is loading a save that is midflight. I clicked the cessna as my plane and then loaded the flight which triggered the 777 to load. It loaded midflight and everything was in perfect order except for the fact that I culd not move my camera around. The dials worked etc.