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I am having a few issues with the X52 pro and need help re-configuring it.

 

1. I can see 2 sets of installations as follows :

 

One instance on C:\program files\Saitek

One instance on C:\program files (x86)\Saitek

 

Is this correct?

 

2. I am not able to get the trim wheel on the throttle to work.  FSUIPC does not recognise it at all.  The test page on the devices and printers however respond to the movement of the trim wheel.  I have read a few posts somewhere where folks are using the trim wheel on the throttle as a elevator trim.

 

3. The NAV and the COM on the MFD respond to the changes on the panel in the aircraft.  However, the MFD does not take any input by itself.

 

4. Noticed that the light on the stick flickers at times.

 

Can someone help me out with this.  Ran thru the saitek official forums but could not solve these problems with the recommendations found there.  I have a feeling that a clean install would resolve the problem, however, i would need guidance to clean every trace of the controller first which I understand is quite challenging.  

 

Ted

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As for FSUIPC and the trim wheel ( I assume you mean the little vertical wheel on the reverse side of the throttle ) - if I remember correctly, I had to have the Saitek software running in the systray before it would work. Make sure you have all the latest drivers and programming software from Saitek, make sure they are running, and then try.

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2. I am not able to get the trim wheel on the throttle to work.  FSUIPC does not recognise it at all.  The test page on the devices and printers however respond to the movement of the trim wheel.  I have read a few posts somewhere where folks are using the trim wheel on the throttle as a elevator trim.

 

Hi Teddy

I use the "I" Rotary wheel for elevator trim but not through FSUIPC. I just set it up direct in FSX controls in the axis tab - the only issue I've found is that it can be a bit sensitive for some addon aircraft. I'd post a screen shot for you but I'm in the process of a complete FSX reinstall if I can ever get FSX Gold to run.

Cheers Pete

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I used the X36, then X52 and finally the X52pro for years without any problems (I now use the Warthog) All I can tell you is what I used to do. Install ONLY the drivers, I NEVER used their programming software. Then go to C:/Windows/System32 scroll down till you come to a group of files starting with Sai. (the drivers) Remove the one named SaiD0762.pro and put it somewhere safe. Then, (very important) unplug the X52pro from your computer, then plug back in. Now, every single button and axis on the X52 can be assigned either through FSX or a registered version of FSUIPC. The flickering lights on the stick sounds like a poor connection with the cable that connects the throttle and stick.

 

/Russell.

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Hi Smoky,

 

Interesting information about the X52Pro.

 

Will give it a try!

 

 

Thanks

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Russell

 

Man, you made my day.  Was looking for a solution to the trim wheel problem for a while now.  Your solution was the right one.

 

Any clue about how to make the MFD work?

 

Thanks once again.  Compliments of the season.

 

Ted

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Teddy

 

I'm glad that helped. It's so long since I used the X52pro, I can't remember about the MFD. If I come up with anything, I'll post it on here.

 

/Russell.

 

I seem to remember it needs a plugin to run. Look in C:/Program Files/Saitek/DirectOutput/SaiFlightsim.exe See if clicking on that exe gets it running. Can't check it myself as I don't have any Saitek stuff on my system now.

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I used the X36, then X52 and finally the X52pro for years without any problems (I now use the Warthog) All I can tell you is what I used to do. Install ONLY the drivers, I NEVER used their programming software. Then go to C:/Windows/System32 scroll down till you come to a group of files starting with Sai. (the drivers) Remove the one named SaiD0762.pro and put it somewhere safe. Then, (very important) unplug the X52pro from your computer, then plug back in. Now, every single button and axis on the X52 can be assigned either through FSX or a registered version of FSUIPC. The flickering lights on the stick sounds like a poor connection with the cable that connects the throttle and stick. /Russell.

Hi Smoky942,

 

I got the X52. Is there any chance you know what driver (if any) needs to be removed to achieve the same results?

(It doesn't have a "SaiD0762.pro", instead there is a "SaiD075C.pro"-file), would that be the same for the X52?

Any help would be very much appreciated!

 

Thanx in advance,

 

Pat

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I seem to remember it needs a plugin to run. Look in C:/Program Files/Saitek/DirectOutput/SaiFlightsim.exe See if clicking on that exe gets it running. Can't check it myself as I don't have any Saitek stuff on my system now.

 

I had read about the SaiFlightsim.exe thing before.  It is running by itself when I launch FSX.  As informed earlier, when I change the com and nav freq's using the mouse in the sim, the change shows up on the MFD, but I cannot change the freq's from the MFD using the 2 scroll buttons.  

 

Ted

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Crashdive.....It probably is. As far as I can remember, there should only be only one of the Sai. files that ends .pro I suppose it depends on which drivers you have. I remember it being SaiD0255.pro at one time, before becoming SaiD0762 with later drivers. It's over a year since I got rid of my X52pro. so maybe it's changed again. Take it out and put it in another folder. Unplug/replug your X52 and try it. If you find no difference, you can then put it back.

 

Ted...I remember mine was the same. Never did work out how to change them with the scroll wheels, or even if it was possible. It needs someone who still uses the X52pro to come to your help.

 

 

/Russell.

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Ted...I remember mine was the same. Never did work out how to change them with the scroll wheels, or even if it was possible. It needs someone who still uses the X52pro to come to your help. /Russell.

 

Russell

 

Got it.  Looks like this is the best one can get from the X52 Pro.  Thanks once again and wish you a Happy New Year

 

Ted

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Happy new year to you too Ted. You'll have to excuse my memory (not what it used to be) but now I vaguely remember. A guy going under the name "BlackSwift" wrote a little user interface plugin which allowed you to use the MFD in the manner you would like. He got to ver.1.3 but his site is long gone. Whether his plugin was ever incorporated into later Saitek drivers, I've no idea. I remember that, if you could'nt get it to work, they told you to rename DirectOutput.dll to DirectOutputx86.dll and it would work. Worth a try, I suppose. You could google BlackSwift X52 and see if you can get hold of the plugin.

 

/Russell.

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Russel

 

Checked for the Blacksmith plugin as suggested by you and found 2 issues....

 

1. This plugin is no more available for download

2. I think it was made for FS9 only

 

Somewhere else I found that I should delete all the 3 folders similar to c:\windows\winsxs\x86.microsoft.flightsimulator.simconnect.......... and this could solve the problem.  However, they say that one has to unistall FSX first.  I checked the folders and all 3 of them have just the simconnect.dll file in them.

 

Any suggestions?

 

Ted

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Ted,

 

As far as I'm aware, it's the DirectOutput.dll that communicates with the MFD. If you have a registered version of FSUIPC, it MAY be possible to get the MFD to do what you want through a LUA. script ... if you can find someone to write one (I can't) There are a lot of smart guys out there. I can't even try anything as I don't have the X52 or FSX on my computer now, only both versions of Prepar3D and the Warthog.

 

 

Russell.

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Thanks for the link.  I can see the com and nav info on the MFD.  But nothing changes when I scroll the right or the left button on the MFD.  Therefore, the instruction from the post is for someone who is not able to figure out how to use the MFD provided it is working.  In my case, it is not working.

 

Ted

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Folks, I have been having the nightmare from hell with the MadCatz drivers.

 

I have just built a new rig (see my side board) and very nice too but when it came to loading the latest MadCatz drivers my Christmas turned into a mad battle between what Windows wants to do and what I need to do.  I've had the X52 Pro for a while and use the MadCatz profile editor in conjunction with EZDok.  The throttle wheel I use to map the FSX key commands for increase\decrease selection (basically zoom in\out).

 

Well the drivers would simply not load.  I spent many hours trying to resolve this issue including contacting the Saitek support guy in Sydney who gave me some useful advice but alas it still didn't work.  I think I have finally solved the problem which seems to be an incompatibility with the Intel USB3 controller drivers and the USB2 device (the X52).  I say this because I uninstalled the Intel drivers and then the MadCatz drivers and profiling software installed normally.  My mistake was then to re-install the Intel USB drivers.  This then caused the profiling software to fail so I attempted to uninstall the Intel drivers again.  Nope they now won't uninstall and somehow my Logitech Setpoint software is stuffed and won't uninstall either.

 

After so many system lock ups and restores I will now re-format my hard drive and start again.  I am really fed up and would be using much more colourful language if I was not communicating my experience on a public forum.

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Tom

 

With the X52 Pro, I think all of us will reach a point where we cannot get anything more from it.  In my case, it is the MFD which refuses to work.  I am not uninstalling FSX just to make the MFD work.  I am done with finding a solution for this problem.

 

That finally leaves us with the Madcatz guys.  They sell the products and after that, you are left to your own devices to figure out the solution to your problems.  I think all the X52 Pro customers should come together and boycott the upcoming Saitek product until they find a fix for the existing products that they have dumped in the market.

 

Do you think we should start a thread for this boycott?

 

Ted

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I have the same problem - the X52 Pro MFD refuses to communicate with FSX, and all those functions are lost.

 

This is on my new computer .... if I plug the X52 Pro into my old computer, everything works.   I have read that the problem could be caused by USB 3, but uninstalling everything Saitek and a reinstall using a USB 2 port did not fix it.

 

Dave.

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Tom

 

With the X52 Pro, I think all of us will reach a point where we cannot get anything more from it.  In my case, it is the MFD which refuses to work.  I am not uninstalling FSX just to make the MFD work.  I am done with finding a solution for this problem.

 

That finally leaves us with the Madcatz guys.  They sell the products and after that, you are left to your own devices to figure out the solution to your problems.  I think all the X52 Pro customers should come together and boycott the upcoming Saitek product until they find a fix for the existing products that they have dumped in the market.

 

Do you think we should start a thread for this boycott?

 

Ted

 

Ted,

 

I'm not sure a boycott would be particularly useful in this instance but perhaps we should have a post dedicated to the X52 Pro and related issues.  I'll be re-installing Windows soon and will first load the MadCatz drivers.  This time I will not be installing the USB3 controllers.  I have a second machine (my old one which I've rebuilt for the kids) and the drivers installed no problem but on that mobo there is no USB3.  I like the stick and the profile editor but it is a little tricky to figure out.  One thing I don't like is the notch in the throttle but I hear some people remove that.

 

I have the same problem - the X52 Pro MFD refuses to communicate with FSX, and all those functions are lost.

 

This is on my new computer .... if I plug the X52 Pro into my old computer, everything works.   I have read that the problem could be caused by USB 3, but uninstalling everything Saitek and a reinstall using a USB 2 port did not fix it.

 

Dave.

 

 

Dave, you need to install the drivers first and then the profile software.  Make sure you 'Run as Administrator'.  The latest versions (for Win 7/64) can be downloaded from Saitek and are...

 

Saitek_X52Pro_Flight_Controller_7_0_27_13_x64_Drivers.exe

Smart Technology 7_0_27_13 64Bit.exe

 

If the drivers failed to install then follow this procedure from Saitek support (Sydney).

 

1. Unplug your device from the computer

 

2. Uninstall the drivers

 

3. Uninstall the SST programming software

 

4. Delete the Saitek folders from the following paths :

C:\Program Files

C:\Windows\Temp

 

5. Delete Saitek registry entries:

 

-Press and hold the Windows key on your keyboard and then press the letter R. This will open the Run box. Type regedit and then click ok.

The Registry Editor will have a list of folders on the left hand side. Go down into the following folders in order by clicking the + next to the folder name.

 

+HKEY_CURRENT_USER

+System

+CurrentControlSet

+Control

+Media Properties

+Private Properties

+Direct Input

 

Delete any folder inside the Direct Input folder that begins VID_06A3.

 

Close Registry Editor.

 

6. Download and install USBDeview from the link below.

 

http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/usbdeview-x64.zip

 

Once installed - Right click on the icon and select run as administrator.

It will show you all the USB devices you have had installed on the PC.

Remove any Saitek entries as well as the unknown ones.

 

6. Reboot

 

7. Install the latest drivers and DO NOT PLUG IN YOUR X52 until the install program ASKS you to or you will have to redo this whole process.

 

If you have the Intel USB3 controllers installed then you will probably have to uninstall them first.  I hope Saitek will develop some new drivers that are compatible with USB3 supported mobos.  I will follow up with them on this.

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Hi Smoky942,

 

I got the X52. Is there any chance you know what driver (if any) needs to be removed to achieve the same results?

(It doesn't have a "SaiD0762.pro", instead there is a "SaiD075C.pro"-file), would that be the same for the X52?

Any help would be very much appreciated!

 

Thanx in advance,

 

Pat

 

Hi Crashdrive -- I'm an X52 user and I ran across this info a few months ago.  I renamed SaiD0255.pro to SaiD0255.pro.OLD so I could return it to its former state in case taking it out of the loop caused problems.  It's a safe bet that the file you mention (SaiD075C.pro) is the one you want to delete or rename.

 

It's a little more work configuring the controls via FSUIPC vs Saitek's programming software, but it's definitely worth the effort.  No more squirrelly, inexplicable control problems.  You do give up the clock functionality on the throttle display, but that's not a big deal to me.  In fact, you can now program those buttons and the formerly useless "latch" button to do whatever you want, which is a definite plus as far as I'm concerned.

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Sorted - Been looking for a solution to this for a long while and the replies I got fixed it for me hope it helps you too 
Cheers Pete

 

Is your MFD functioning properly?  I am not able to make changes in the MFD so as to change the NAV & COM freq in the sim.  I cannot change the pages using the scroll wheel too.  All I can do is use the chronometer on the MFD

 

Ted

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