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I've been having this odd issue where after POST and while trying to load windows all I get is a blank screen. When I say blank I mean the monitor is powered up but the screen is black. The HDD light does show activity. This only happens once in a while. And even less frequently than this I'll get the same issue but Windows will finally load after 3-5 minutes.

 

It's been an odd year for me so far argh!

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Today I got a gray screen after POST....  I guess I'll try a Windows Repair... maybe something is corrupted.  Last night though while flying FSX my screens briefly turned off, I got a nvidia display driver stopped working message, and then everything seemed fine!

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Anyone have any ideas? Last night I got a black screen and then rebooted, ran Windows startup repair - it couldn't fix anything. It's odd though. When I get a black screen, everytime after it, I can reboot and load into Windows like normal...

 

Ugh

 

Prolly need a format ugh

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sounds like a hardware problem, not software.

 

If you have another disc available you could test it by installing windows on it and c how that runs.

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See I figured it would be software since it gets past POST fine - it's after the windows loading logo that it typically happens. Hardware could mean anything. I don't have a spare HDD but hopefully I'll get a SSD soon and reinstall anyway.

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I've got no USB drives on it.  I do have a ton of USB peripherals though.

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I've got no USB drives on it.  I do have a ton of USB peripherals though.

Unplug all of them that you can and see what happens to your start up time.

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I can try but this doesn't happen all the time...  it's random.  I guess the best I could do is unplug all and if it happens I know its not the USB ports.

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Make sure your video card is properly seated and the connections to your monitor are tight.  It sounds like Windows is not seeing your video card.  In the event viewer look under Custom Views>Administrative Events.  Look for anything that relates to your video card.  It should at least show a Red exclamation mark for Windows taking so long to start up.

 

Best regards,

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I've got none in event viewer for custom views

 

Windows logs has thousands

 

Application and service logs: only for Microsoft Office

 

GPU I had recently cleaned it but its tight and the DVI-D and VGA connections are good.  I do have a second monitor that is not the same size or resolution as my primary...

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Well I was really hoping it was the OS but my new SSD arrived and now the occurrence is still happening.. Two different drives same issue. Gotta be board or GPU is guess.

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Have you tried running with no overclock.

 

Sounds video card related to me, but it's always the first step when trouble shooting to reset bios to defaults.

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Do you have, or know anyone with a spare graphics card you can swap out?
 
Having said that, and after reading this in your first post...

 

And even less frequently than this I'll get the same issue but Windows will finally load after 3-5 minutes.

 

 

 

If Windows isn't loading until 3-5 minutes has past then it suggests not video card related.

 

 

I'd check your PSU, with a PSU tester. Although it won't reveal intermittent faults.

 

It's worth testing RAM as well. Even if it doesn't sound like a RAM issue, it's still worth going through a process of elimination.

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Ram is ok I tested with a bootable USB drive.

 

The 3-5 min thing hasn't happened in a long time - just a black screen with no drive activity.

 

Then again I haven't had any occurrence with 10 restarts or cold boots in the last few days while I've been reinstalling my software.

 

A few months ago I purchased a PSU tester (thermaltake Dr power 2) and all voltages were in tolerance - there was one value in milliseconds that was a little high though.

 

Ideally new components would be nice to test with - but from a practical perspective I won't be able to get any until I just upgrade my system in a few years.

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You could try swapping out cables. Different SATA cables, and anything else you have spare.

 

I had an annoying issue once that turned out to be related to an ATX extender cable that was arching out.

 

Sorry I can't be more help, it's a tricky one.

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Yeah it is... Hehe

 

I'm sure the problem will go away if I throw money at it lol!

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My next plan is to RMA the PSU anyway just to rule it out.

 

Then I'll see if I have any warranty on the GPU - evga is usually a good company to work with.

 

And then after that .... literally....  I'll consider new components.... board, RAM, CPU - my friend might be able to give me his GPU.  (It's an AMD card but I'm willing to take my chances)

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just test components one by one.

 

Take out 1 ram stick and see if it still happens, if it does, put it back and take the other one out.

 

Take out your video card and use the on board graphics to see if it still happens.

 

After that, you will be left with 2 possibilities: your mobo or your cpu, so in that case it would complicate things a bit.

 

In my opinion, your psu is not a likely cause. 

 

In my experience they either work, or don't.

 

Unless your psu doesn't have enough juice for your gpu, but you should be able to find that in the specs.

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I've mem tested both sticks individually via USB boot drive.... passed after about an hour worth of runs - I'm doubting it's RAM.

 

I don't think I have onboard video or do I?  In that case I can't play BF4 or FSX to test for those DX related errors.

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