Jump to content

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Sesquashtoo

P3D first flight in the Bonanza 36....

Recommended Posts

WOW!

 

My system is handling feature ramp-up's with no sweat.  I'm maintaining 30 FPS with most items at 70 percent...and folks were right...just the plain vanilla sim...has a seriously different atmospheric 'feel' to it...that IS NOT translated by any video...or screen grab. No sir!

 

You have to have it on your monitor...in real time.  I now can't wait to start loading in ORBX...and sleds....

 

 

It's gonna be a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong night...... :)

 

See ya...

Share this post


Link to post

Ok...here it is so far..

 

1.  My system specs are eating this thing.

2. My GTX 680 EVGA  Signature Super Clock is having no issues whatsoever with pumping out a continuous 30 FPS...up from the default 20.

 

 

 I have pretty well, everything turned on...shadows...reflections, Scenery at Max...all sliders...etc...and still am getting 28-30 FPS.

 

Folks...for those sitting on the fence...if you have anything similar to my CPU and GPU configuration....you are going to do most excellent!

 

Let's talk about smoothness of animation.  Now..I LOVE my FSX as is...but...and honestly, it can't hold a candle to P3D. Nope...the animation is so smooth right down to 20...that you truly can shut off the FPS counter. It is now a distraction. I actually had all scenery sliders set to max (what ever they call Max...blah, blah) but had to turn it down ONLY because it looked too dense and crowded. Can you believe that??!?!?  I have all shadows enabled. I have all reflections enabled...and am pumping out 25-30 FPS, with no performance hits.  So..my i7-975 Extreme OC's to 4.1 GHz is either a monster....and the last of its kind, or any high performance system, can ABSOLUTELY handle 3PD 2.2 with all the 'goodies' turned on, and at their moderate, to high settings.  This has been my experience with a vanilla set up.  Also...the generic in-house autogen...looks (hmmmmmmmm....rather ORBX'ish) pretty darn good at the higher settings. In fact...I had to tone it down to Dense to look sort of R.W....so you will certainly get what you need...and I bet...with a good strong high-end system...you can migrate from FSX-------------.NO SWEAT!

 

Back to the Baron 58...and just snooping around, touch and go's...that sort of thing.  Once more I wish to comment upon the smooooooooooooooooooothness of the sim. Nothing to date, XPX, FSX (DX10 or 9) compares with this.  You can rip the page in the dictionary that refers to micro-stutters right out. You won 't need to remember the word...

 

LM...congratulations...I am now a convert.....

FSX will be shared with this new baby on the block....and THAT'S for sure!

 

Happy P3D Camper.....

Share this post


Link to post

Very pleased for you, I know just how you are feeling right now.

 

The future is looking very bright, We have a way forward now thanks to LM

Share this post


Link to post

Very pleased for you, I know just how you are feeling right now.

 

The future is looking very bright, We have a way forward now thanks to LM

Mad Dog...I simply don't understand some things as posted in this forum.  First off...I have a GTX 680, running the latest Beta driver, and I don't understand some of these posts whereby others have higher cards..and are having performance issues of this, or that?  WHY?!?!??

 

My experience (I'm ripping all over the place...Arizona, California, Europe...etc) has been nothing but stellar..and I already have ASN cooking up weather. So again...what is happening that is making other's have less of an experience...and yes...I have the sim generally running at 80 percent Max'ed out. I have most check-boxes as enabled. So...if my system is handling this all at 25-30 FPS...what gives with some of these 'frustrated with sim performance, and need help' posts?  That...I don't understand, P3D post-install.....shrugging shoulders, frankly.....

Share this post


Link to post

Mitch it was no different with FS9>FSX

Back then folks threw every FS9 addon they owned into FSX and got poor results.

Its the same now which is why I said "one addon at a time and test well" Some stuff runs well, some not so well and we will not see the best of P3D till the native addons appear and not just updated installers.

 

It is FS9 > FSX all over again with Devs claiming P3D compatability when in reality all they have done is changed the paths in the installer.

Share this post


Link to post

Mitch it was no different with FS9>FSX

Back then folks threw every FS9 addon they owned into FSX and got poor results.

Its the same now which is why I said "one addon at a time and test well" Some stuff runs well, some not so well and we will not see the best of P3D till the native addons appear and not just updated installers.

 

It is FS9 > FSX all over again with Devs claiming P3D compatability when in reality all they have done is changed the paths in the installer.

I see.  I have to tell you..that I read prior to deciding to jump in...that there is no true correlation between settings for graphic output as P3D vs FSX.  Most, and absolutely true. I am actually (I still am shaking my head on this....lol) scaling back vegetation from Max...shadows from Max...and so on...as the higher settings are sort of over-the-top. You can get great, simply great graphic and visual output from v2.2 at even medium/moderate settings...wow...I would NEVER have guessed this would have been my experience. Scaling back...what A LAUGH!  Another thing...the stock graphic textures are NO DOGS!  They are superior to GEX, and approaching FSX-G territory....I am flying around the mountains near Phoenix at the moment...and am simply blown away by the sheer quality of this simulator.  Graphics, features, output.......H.S.!   

 

I would have been a sheer idiot to have waited for vaporware...in 64 bit.   I have to say..that this 32 bit program is running STELLAR, with all the features and their settings i wish to have...right this moment, right this day.  FSX fence sitters...GET OFF YOUR BUTTS!   You are missing out, on a fabulous flight simulating experience. I was...not any more...but YOU STILL ARE. Buy it...install it...and the smiles will come, gangbusters!  Wow.....

Share this post


Link to post

Some screenshots would be nice

They're worthless....

 

You need to buy in...and start flying on your own system.  The atmospherics can't be captured, nor the incredible smoothness. Richard, there are no more micro-stutters.....they are gone.

Share this post


Link to post

Got yah but not yet as to many addons that are not P3D install ready - more fussing which I am really getting sick of doing - its getting old

Share this post


Link to post

Are you basing your findings on just Vanilla everything except the baron?

Share this post


Link to post

Mitch,

 

That 1st look out the cockpit you realize there is something different. Keep going.

 

Bob

Share this post


Link to post

Got yah but not yet as to many addons that are not P3D install ready - more fussing which I am really getting sick of doing - its getting old

My gawd, Richard...I wish you could be looking over my shoulder....you would end the wait.

 

I am in the process of re-downloading some ORBX goodies...Global, Northern California, (I just bought Vector, as I can't use UTX (legally...that is, and I am the 'good lad'.)

There is SO MUCH to do and play with in sleds that come with the sim.  You even have Carenado already ported over, etc.  

 

I have to tell you though...that, THAT is not the reason I would give to have my fellow FSX'ers come over to the dark side.  No...it's NOT what you can port over...or use-to-date. It is the P3D itself!  Performance, like there is no tomorrow!!!  I did not go out and buy another vid card. Nope...the GTX 680 2 GB is pumping out the sugar...just fine. I had the sim blasted full open..and still got 22-30 FPS depending on what I was doing..or where, etc. As stated in other threads...I did not end up staying with a full-open sim...for you do not need to. You can scale P3D to medium everything...and still have eye-candy and hard-core features doing their thing, to make you smile all the way up to FL410.  Richard...you are missing out, to where it's almost a crime that you are. This journey I took today...is all about the simulator...and not what I can, or can not install from my FSX war-chest at this time. I am in the process of porting over, but I am in a position, to advise others, that you will immediately see pay-out for your purchase...and again...is NOT incumbent upon what developer has, or has not ported over.  P3D is a true....again...a TRUE evolution of the original vision and coding.  It WORKS!   Don't miss out....and soon, Vector will be downloaded and I will have decent roadways and such as in my UTX-FSX!  Can't wait...and having the time of my life, tonight.....Life is good....It sure is....

 

Cheers,

 

Mitch 

Mitch,

 

That 1st look out the cockpit you realize there is something different. Keep going.

 

Bob

Bob...it's Christmas in May....and this little kid is rubbing his hands at the LM Christmas tree.... :)

Wow...look at this feature...look at that feature...the fog...wow...haze...wow....ripping up almost vertical, in the R22....wow....

I just installed my REX 4 Directs prefs as per FSX tastes...and that is now taken care of.....

And on...and on....all through tonight....and into the wee hours....coffee at the ready....

Share this post


Link to post

Mitch you have me thinking now but not sure of the unknown - if I buy academic version can you upgrade for 199$ version and apply the original investment ? - wish I was looking over your shoulder because I have just about had it with fsx - what mesh are you using with vector - I have all the fsgenesis and not going to buy vector unless it works together - maybe bugging you on this buddy - sounding very interesting.

Share this post


Link to post

And on...and on....all through tonight....and into the wee hours....coffee at the ready....

 

Mitch, you crack me up Bud! Maybe you need another cup of coffee LOL Keep going and please get some sleep.

Get the ORBX installed and see what you got.

Bob

Share this post


Link to post

Mitch you have me thinking now but not sure of the unknown - if I buy academic version can you upgrade for 199$ version and apply the original investment ? - wish I was looking over your shoulder because I have just about had it with fsx - what mesh are you using with vector - I have all the fsgenesis and not going to buy vector unless it works together - maybe bugging you on this buddy - sounding very interesting.

I'm running mesh at the highest setting, as well as the other two.

 

Vector works..but to really appreciate it Rich, you have to give it  room to breathe...and that's at the stop, full out. You then get the eye candy you just paid over $60.00 for.

Mitch, you crack me up Bud! Maybe you need another cup of coffee LOL Keep going and please get some sleep.

Get the ORBX installed and see what you got.

Bob

Bob, I got FSXG, Vector, PNW North Rockies, Central Rockies, Pacific Fjords...most of them and still downloading. What I found out...was that with custom scenery installs...you can lose as much as 33 percent of the FPS, that you had while still in the fresh install, Vanilla State. That being said though....I still have fluidity...and great immersion features that even DX10 in FSX, can't offer. No deal breaker for me....and if I ever get another system...it can scale with me.  All in all, having fun...

Share this post


Link to post

Hi Ses',

 

As a possible convert, do I detect a drop in enthusiasm after installing all our Orbx products? After all a drop of 33 FPS sounds quite severe to me!

 

Cheers,

Share this post


Link to post

Hi Ses',

 

As a possible convert, do I detect a drop in enthusiasm after installing all our Orbx products? After all a drop of 33 FPS sounds quite severe to me!

 

Cheers,

Well, yes and no, lol.

 

When in the 'Vanilla Extract' mode...my system was hammering P3D.  I never thought that I'd see a 10-12 FPS drop on average.  Having seen that, I can't truly endorse for every user, to 'come on over', and not publish what went on (after starting to load in custom software) with my system spec's in play.  I also state that I can get a somewhat smooth experience even down to 18 FPS, but of course that is not what one would want to see happen. Yes...if I trim down the sliders to almost giving no real virtual reality...yes...I can get the FPS's back to the 30 range. That is not acceptable for my needs, when I can have full virtual reality, and every ounce of graphic output, in using FSX in DX10 mode, a 'la Steve's Fixer Upper Super Duper...(smile).

 

I really like the newer features of P3D, so I CAN suggest that one could have both...and use each sim for its strengths and feature sets, just as I would say to use XPX.  My final thought tonight, as i wind down installing the last of the ORBX triple install regions...is that P3D, with current state-of-the-art hardware...is not a total replacement on one's hard drive to kiss FSX, good-bye. It is a different route to one's flight sim'ing .  For that reason, FSX will NOT be saying good-bye off of my hard drive, or in time allocated for the hobby. ORBX candy is drop-dead gorgeous in DX10...and I shall use both probably on an equal time basis...  P3D has excellent forward looking features, but in my opinion, is NOT a full-out replacement to retire FSX.  They can very easily have a place on the hard drive, right nearby XPX, lol.  I have all three, and will enjoy all three.  Good night to all...and to all, a good night.....,  

 

After Post thought:  "For the low cost of $59.95, I highly recommend that one picks up this simulator.  Install it...and keep it virgin. Crank up every slider, and you'll see that the stock, generic terrain and auto-gen is absolutely first rate..and just below FSXG itself.  If I were to lose my install of P3D...I would not go past the fresh install state...and then just run the bejesus out of the sim...at 50 FPS!   No dog there...and to see the Raptor boot up, almost vertical at 50 FPS...is totally worth the money invested!!!!!   I just spent more for Vector, than what I paid for the ENTIRE sim.....so that speaks plenty."   

Share this post


Link to post

I'm running mesh at the highest setting, as well as the other two.

 

Vector works..but to really appreciate it Rich, you have to give it  room to breathe...and that's at the stop, full out. You then get the eye candy you just paid over $60.00 for.

Bob, I got FSXG, Vector, PNW North Rockies, Central Rockies, Pacific Fjords...most of them and still downloading. What I found out...was that with custom scenery installs...you can lose as much as 33 percent of the FPS, that you had while still in the fresh install, Vanilla State. That being said though....I still have fluidity...and great immersion features that even DX10 in FSX, can't offer. No deal breaker for me....and if I ever get another system...it can scale with me.  All in all, having fun...

I was waiting for you to install the ORBX stuff to see your comments. I lost fluidity with PNW and I could not regain that fluidity even by dropping object densities to almost nothing. I only was using shadow casting for the VC at a medium setting, and shutting off shadows made no difference. Tessellation was set at Ultra, but moving it to high also made zero difference in the fluidity. I tried everything but those little stutters are just so annoying I could not deal with it. 

 

Bob

Share this post


Link to post

FPS and smoothness do not correlate at all in P3D. I have departed KSEA in the Majestic Q400 using Orbx PNW, REX Clouds, and Vancouver CYVR, in overcast rainy conditions, using 40% WoAI traffic, and the flight was smooth as silk (performance-wise). When I checked my FPS, it was in the teens, yet I had zero stutters. So, don't watch your FPS when using P3D. It will drive you nuts.

 

P3D also requires a solid GPU. You don't need top of the line but 4+ GB memory is key in my opinion. I upgraded from a GTX 660 2 GB card to a GTX 770 4GB card and the difference was night and day. Also, back off the sliders. You'll be surprised how nice your sim will look with medium settings. I run with my sliders one notch below max. And be careful about using HD clouds. I use 1024 x 1024 clouds, which look just fine.

 

Todd

Share this post


Link to post

They're worthless....

 

You need to buy in...and start flying on your own system. The atmospherics can't be captured, nor the incredible smoothness. Richard, there are no more micro-stutters.....they are gone.

I have to disagree. I still see micro stutters. Worse then fsx.

Share this post


Link to post

Mitch you have me thinking now but not sure of the unknown - if I buy academic version can you upgrade for 199$ version and apply the original investment ? -

Why on earth would you even consider doing that? There is no benefit to be gained, aside from removing the nearly invisible text 'watermark' on the upper right corner... :blink:  :wacko:

Share this post


Link to post

I have to disagree. I still see micro stutters. Worse then fsx.

You are not alone. I have them too. 

 

Bob

Share this post


Link to post

You are not alone. I have them too.

 

Bob

 

Everything below 22-24 fps makes it stutter on my system as well.

 

And for the record: ORBX is a FPS killer in P3DV2 and need to be optimized by the ORBX team.

 

But try UK2000 EGLL. Great performance as well in P3DV2.

 

Michael

Share this post


Link to post

ame="N1G" post="2986312" timestamp="1399731552"]

 

You are not alone. I have them too.

 

Bob

 

 

Everything below 22-24 fps makes it stutter on my system as well.

 

And for the record: ORBX is a FPS killer in P3DV2 and need to be optimized by the ORBX team.

 

But try UK2000 EGLL. Great performance as well in P3DV2.

 

Michael

Michael, when you say optimized, what could they do or have they stated that this is the case. Just curious.

 

Bob

Share this post


Link to post
×
×
  • Create New...