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If the sim runs at less fps than the monitors refresh rate (mostly 60 Hz -> 60 fps) the missing frames will look like stutters. That's not something to argue over but just a technical fact. Only technical solution would be the 1/2 refresh rate Vsync available in FSX (if you can at least maintain > 30 fps). People who claim otherwise just don't see the stutters but they are there. They must be there.

 

In the end it's just a question whether you can live with this not 100% smooth experience or not. I've reached a point where I can except the microstutters (if you don't look for them you might actually reach a point where you "don't see them" most of the time) because P3D offers so much more than FSX. Especially for GA flights. However, if you want a 100% smooth experience than P3D might not (yet) be the way to go. In this case a properly tweaked FSX will give you a smoother flight experience. But you also miss all the nice things like cloud shadows, cockpit shadows, volumetric clouds, great stability, etc. I guess, it's just a give and take...


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Sorry to hear about your frustration. I have not made the leap to P3D yet, as I'm still getting plenty of joy from a well-tuned FSX. Hope you get things sorted. 

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" if you want a 100% smooth experience than P3D might not (yet) be the way to go."

 

I have P3D running very smooth -a2a 172 - alabeo products - aerosoft axe - but no fsdt - FB stuff loaded that may change very quickly  unfortunately - just downloaded FB new installers - scared to load them  :)  lol I do have KBOS loaded no problems 

 

Oh P3D was worth the price of admission just due to the fact that the ground textures at altitude are far superior - crisp and clear looking beauty - FSX was a blurry mess - I have been seeing some blurriesn the AXE but I will get that worked out


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HEEEY, feallas, I got it sorted!! I have to admit at being a dipstick :blink:  what I thought was Aero enabled, was indeed a theme below! After correctly enabling Aero, I am now flying without tearing :biggrin: So I'm now embarking on the road to installation... and it all happened on my birthday! Nice pressie eh! :biggrin:  Thanks for everyone's patience and help, cheers...


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Finally you got it. This link may be still of interest for you. http://www.prepar3d.com/forum-5/?mingleforumaction=viewtopic&t=7211

Spirit

 

PS: Happy Birthday

 

Thanks matey...


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Glad you got it sorted Howard! Happy Birthday!

 

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If the sim runs at less fps than the monitors refresh rate (mostly 60 Hz -> 60 fps) the missing frames will look like stutters. That's not something to argue over but just a technical fact. Only technical solution would be the 1/2 refresh rate Vsync available in FSX (if you can at least maintain > 30 fps). People who claim otherwise just don't see the stutters but they are there. They must be there.

 

In the end it's just a question whether you can live with this not 100% smooth experience or not. I've reached a point where I can except the microstutters (if you don't look for them you might actually reach a point where you "don't see them" most of the time) because P3D offers so much more than FSX. Especially for GA flights. However, if you want a 100% smooth experience than P3D might not (yet) be the way to go. In this case a properly tweaked FSX will give you a smoother flight experience. But you also miss all the nice things like cloud shadows, cockpit shadows, volumetric clouds, great stability, etc. I guess, it's just a give and take...

 

You took the words right out of my mouth. I will trade those micro stutters (that LM will fix eventually) for everything else. AM=15 + Adaptive + 4SGSS does it for me. Also running ASN w/3 cloud layers. Fixed the REX horribly blue Pacific Ocean w/textures from another program. Looks like the Pacific now.

 

Flew from KLAX into KSFO in the ES Citation X a few days ago at twilight; scary real.

 

I uninstalled FSX this morning and I'm not going back.

 

Cheers,

Mark

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