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Whats a RAT?

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Title says it. On the LDS, there is a RAT, i played around and hit it, not a little fan thingy is deployed from the bottom of the aircraft.. what is it? how do i retract it?:-wave

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Hi,I assume you reload the plane - they are usually retracted by maintenance personnel. Or try hitting the button again?RAT = Ram Air Turbine. They are used to provide electrical (and sometimes hydraulic) power when the normal systems fail. It was used by the Gimli Glider 767 when both engines shut down due to lack of fuel, for example.Hope this helps,--Tom GibsonCal Classic Propliner Page: http://www.calclassic.comFreeflight Design Shop: http://www.freeflightdesign.comDrop by! ___x_x_(")_x_x___

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Guest Paul Heaney

There's a RAT at work, that likes to tattle on everybody, to make himself look good. :)

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Guest BobLee

Brilliant reply. Fits right in with your sig. Why don't you try to help the guy instead of belittling him. A simple pointout to the page without the crude RTFM would have been fine.

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If you had seen the amount of useless support questions asked just because people are too lazy to read the manual, then you'd have reacted just the same.

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Actually, it's just fine the way it is. The forums are flooded with posts from people who are just too lazy to RTFM. I'm not prone to helping anyone when it's obvious they haven't taken the time to do a little homework before pleading for someone else to do it for them. At least I included the page number to make the effort a little less painful.

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Guest BobLee

I've seen as many or more questions asked as you have and as many impolite answers given by know-it-alls. If you want to drive people away from the hobby go right ahead. It would have been just as easy to say, "the answer is on page 131" rather than saying "read the f***** manual." But, I guess, it makes one feel superior.

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Guest BobLee

Then why answer at all?

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Guest Michael_CFII_SEL

Hello,Seems like Tom Gibson answered his/her question before your RTFM remark so why bother to post at all, guess it makes you feel like a big man.Mike

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I gotta tell you MIke, over the years I've probably answered as many dumb questions in a helpful manner in these forums as anyone. But the situation with the LDS 767 is beyond anything I can remember. People buy the most complex aircraft ever designed for this hobby and then expect someone else to do all the grunt work for them simply because they are too lazy to do a little reading. You can tolerate it as you choose but don't ask me to do so. I will not be an enabler for the lazy. If these folks aren't ready for the answer they shouldn't ask the question in the first place.Doug

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Guest Rockcliffe

Personally, I think "RTFM" is just part of the lexicon of FS. I might feel a little sheepish if I got that response, but I wouldn't take offence.BlairCYOW

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Guest Michael_CFII_SEL

Hello,How do you know that this question was asked because this person did not read the manual, it could of been he/she did not understand the explanation given in the manual. If the person did not understand the explanation given in the manual they can RTFM all day long and it still won't help them. There are two problems with your response1. You assume they are lazy2. You assume they did not read the manualWhen all that may be needed in regards to the RAT is clarification. Its no wonder to me why people are hesitant to ask for help anymore now-a-days, its seems this plase is loaded with people who have nothing better to do than pounce on someone when they ask a question.How many languages is the LDS767 manual written in?Is the manual written in his/her native language?.If not, how do you expect him/her to RTFM?Mike

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wouldnt it of just been easier to shut up if you werent going to help me? Simple question. I didnt feel the need to read 177 pages of nothing. I had a simple question that i thought could be answered quickly here.

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i wonder what kind of responses would of been recieved if i would of said "me speaka no englisha" What do you think mike?:-waveSincerely,An idiot who like to post threads for help instead of reading a manual.

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Guest lemonadedrinker

Hi there. I'm with you, Chase, on this. I'm always asking dumb qwestions and I have serious trouble reading the manuals, which I know are there for our benefit but still... In fact unless you print it all off you couldn't see it as you flew and how could you remember about the RAT on page 177 or wherever it was if you're trying to sort out the rest of it. Tom Gibson's site (www.calclassic.com) is full of information about flying and well worth many visits and a great contrast to the rtfm response.Andy.

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Guest LLgaz

The RAT (Ram Air Turbine) is fully explained in the manual and is a rather neat little feature which was also present in the original PIC767. I don't think any other addon has implemented that. Doug does have a point about the manual though. The way the manual is written its a bit difficult to believe that someone read through the manual and didn't see, or couldn't understand anything whatsoever about what the RAT is. In any event, once deployed, you cannot stow the RAT until you land and ask the ground crew to stow it through the PIC menus. You don't have to reload the aircraft.

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Chase wrote: "I didnt feel the need to read 177 pages of nothing". Exactly my point Chase. (BTW, you didn't need to read the entire manual. The reference to the RAT is listed on page five of the index.)Doug

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Assume Mike? See his post below. To quote, in part "I didnt feel the need to read 177 pages of nothing". And from the signature "An idiot who like to post threads for help instead of reading a manual."Doug

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>Hello,>>How do you know that this question was asked because this>person did not read the manual, it could of been he/she did>not understand the explanation given in the manual. Wording the question in that way would help indicating that. What's after all the point in not mentioning it when you risk getting the advice to read what you already read but didn't understand?

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>pardon me sir, are you implying the fact that i am lazy?You bet your #### on it!

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>The RAT (Ram Air Turbine) is fully explained in the manual>and is a rather neat little feature which was also present in>the original PIC767. I don't think any other addon has>implemented that. >Actually, the KOCH Media Concorde has a RAT implemented as well.As far as being too lazy to read the manual, one should expect to get a does of RTFM if they admit it. I've been known to post the phrase from time to time but a bit of responsibility on the end user is expected with such an add on and if they do their homework, it would eliminate(reduce) what some deem as RTFM questions.Cheers,JohnBoeing 727/737 & Lockheed C-130/L-100 Mechanichttp://www.precisionmanuals.com/images/forum/ng_driver.jpg

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It's a little rodent that must have gotten loose on the aircraft, might try setting a few traps... :-lolSorry, just had to post that... :( The above post from Tom Gibson is absolutely correct.. :)

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