July 20, 201411 yr Hi All, I am trying to install all of my flight sim assets onto my D drive. I have heard that this helps performance, and frees up FSX from all those pesky permission problems. However I believe this is causing a problem. When launching FSX and the updating it comes up with a message. 'Flight Simulator requires at least one each of the following to run: a VOR, an NDB, and a waypoint. There is currently no airpot in the dataset. Flight Simulator will now exit.' Is there a fixable soultion to his. It looks like a path is not being found? I have also installed VFR senery. Best regards J u l ia n D i a m a n d i s
July 20, 201411 yr What exactly are you doing? Are you installing FSX from scratch? Did you start it up after the initial install? ... or are you moving it from the C: drive to the D: drive? Either is possible, but it is not clear from your question where you are at.. Bert
July 20, 201411 yr Author What exactly are you doing? Are you installing FSX from scratch? Did you start it up after the initial install? ... or are you moving it from the C: drive to the D: drive? Either is possible, but it is not clear from your question where you are at.. Oh yes, I should explain. I am starting from scratch. My D drive is a partition on t the main HD, and C being were the program files are normally installed. I have not installed FSX into a different drive before. I also installed my VFR scenery to the D drive. I am wondering if this has messed something up? I started off creating a folder called D/FSX and aimed the intall there. J u l ia n D i a m a n d i s
July 20, 201411 yr OK.. back to basics.. you are not accomplishing anything by installing FSX on a different partition. A separate Harddrive, OK - partition, no. So, try to install FSX on C:\FSX. Having said that, it should still work. Did FSX start up after the install? Before installing scenery etc? I envision an initial FSX install - test to see it works. Then, install SP1+SP2 or Acceleration. Test again. Then, and only then - install add-ons to FSX. Bert
July 20, 201411 yr Author Hi Bert, I have just completely uninstalled everything, and yes I have have re-installed onto the D drive again and it now works. I don't think it will gain any performance, because the partition is the same drive. I need to buy a good hard drive in the future. However I would like to use the partition because there is so much more space on it. I will try and install SP1 and 2, I am not quite sure were to put the add-ons, I have Active Sky Next, the PMDG NGX, EZOCK, FS2Crew, and not to mention Horisions VFR scenery. I'm sure this will be a load of fun! many thanks Julian J u l ia n D i a m a n d i s
July 21, 201411 yr Its not really about performance. Its more to do with admin privileges that most programs need when they are installed in the program files directory
July 22, 201411 yr Author OK, thanks you If you have any advice on installing all the other stuff I use, I would appreciate it. Best regards Jools J u l ia n D i a m a n d i s
July 22, 201411 yr Commercial Member This comes up a lot. If we install FSX in the default location it gives the least problems, especially with addons and finger trouble allocating the folder to addon installations. If we install FSX in the default location, we only need add Write and Modify permissions for the Users Group on the FSX Program Files Folder before installing addons. Steve Waite: Engineer at codelegend.com
July 23, 201411 yr Author This comes up a lot. If we install FSX in the default location it gives the least problems, especially with addons and finger trouble allocating the folder to addon installations. If we install FSX in the default location, we only need add Write and Modify permissions for the Users Group on the FSX Program Files Folder before installing addons. Ok, this isn't filling me with a massive amount of confidence. FSX seems bad at the best of times even when you do a normal install into it's default location. Whilst some people say 'try installing onto a different drive' I don't want to do that if it really is a waste of time. What are your experiences here? J u l ia n D i a m a n d i s
July 23, 201411 yr Commercial Member This comes up a lot. If we install FSX in the default location it gives the least problems, especially with addons and finger trouble allocating the folder to addon installations. If we install FSX in the default location, we only need add Write and Modify permissions for the Users Group on the FSX Program Files Folder before installing addons. Ok, this isn't filling me with a massive amount of confidence. FSX seems bad at the best of times even when you do a normal install into it's default location. Whilst some people say 'try installing onto a different drive' I don't want to do that if it really is a waste of time. What are your experiences here? I am sorry your confidence has been knocked about so badly. The only reason you see comments suggesting different drives and folders, is because when it comes to file and folder permissions, and how programs are supposed to work with Windows security measures, there's a distinct and gross lack of understanding around here. What you need to take on board, and be sure to understand, is what I said above about Write and Modify permissions for the Users group. Here we are with a default install of FSX, and we are allocating File and Folder permissions that makes it act nice and friendly, just like Windows XP. This setup is on a 4Tb Intel Raid10 volume, I didn't partition it or make multiple drives, I installed FSX onto the default location, because this HAS to be a reliable system. Steve Waite: Engineer at codelegend.com
July 23, 201411 yr Author OK well thank for going to the time of doing this. I kind of know how to turn off permissions, but obviously nice to go though it again. The other question was, is it possible to install the other programs to a file structure, on D drive, which mirrors the C. Because D drive is a lot larger than the main C drive. Say for example where do you point the instal of the PMDGs NGX or Horizon VFR scenery or Active Sky Next? I haven't done it yet, because I want to know if it is worth the trouble. J u l ia n D i a m a n d i s
July 24, 201411 yr Commercial Member Planes, and Weather programs are relatively small but may pose problems distributed across drives, but scenery is generally just a folder to allocate to FSX in the scenery library so may be less so affected. Steve Waite: Engineer at codelegend.com
July 24, 201411 yr Commercial Member If you have a lot of planes these can be put in another folder on the other drive and the folder allocated in fsx.cfg [Main] section: [Main] .. .. SimObjectPaths.6=D:\MyPlanes SimObjectPaths.7=D:\AIPlanes .. Steve Waite: Engineer at codelegend.com
July 25, 201411 yr Author Ok thank you this is all very useful. I am tempted and just do the normal C install, check the permissions and allow as suggested. For planes and weather, I will put them in the default location, as these are not that big. But I might see if I can put the VFR horizon scenery on the D drive as this is is a lot of data, with all the textures and so on. Best regards Julian J u l ia n D i a m a n d i s
July 25, 201411 yr If you use the 'normal C: install, you are forever stuck with the ridiculously long path name when trying to get to the various FSX folders. If you feel you MUST install to C:, make it C:\FSX. The same with the SDK, C:\SDK or FSX SDK. or use D:\ in place of C:\ but keep the path short! As pointed out, you can put addon aircraft anywhre as long as the path to their location is entered in the FSX.CFG file "SimObjects" entries. I created several addition folders for different types of aircraft...props, military,etc. That way I could easily enable/disable a whole class of aircraft by simply commenting out "//" the entry in the CFG file before launching FSX. As for scenery, it also can live anywhere as you 'point' FSX to the folder, wherever it is, when you add it to the Scenery library. For information purposes: I have a dual-boot arrangement with FSX installs in both my Xp Pro and Win7 Pro X64 systems with FSX on I:\ and X:\ drives for Xp and Win7 respectively. I used a method to allow the 'sharing' of all my addon scenery between the two installs by moving my entire "Addon Scenery" folder to the root of an otherwise empty partition...J: in my case. Then I created EMPTY "Addon Scenery" folders in both XP and Win7 FSX directories. This J: drive was then 'mounted' to the empty folders using the Windows Disk Management application. This technique is a valuable tool to be able to place all your addon scenery onto a seperate, faster drive from the FSX install location. I haven't tried it yet but I BELIEVE this methos will also work for placing the OrbX folder and all its included folders elsewhere, outside of the FSX drive. I'll be having a new laptop built with mutiple SSD's and plan to do this distributed allocation of scenery folders on that. Paul
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