Hey!

 

 

I was making a normal uneventful flight from Moscow to Nizhny Novgorod and while on cruise I got a complete electrical failure (caused by fspassengers) just like that and everything went out. Not a single backup system worked and I tried to level out the plane resulting in the controls becoming locked after seconds and the plane send into a dive right (elevator somehow jammed?) to to the ground at extremely high speed. Cockpit lights weren't functioning and it was pitch dark night so flight was doomed from the second.

 

Failures on fspassengers were off, and even as they come on I a plane (both in sim and real life) should not spiral out of control after the failure especially if the engines are still working and completely remove backup systems. Hence correct procedure is how?

 

I know this sounds like captain sim, however the aircraft in question is a Tupolev Tu-154B-2. And I know that the airplane addon had nothing to do with this at all.

 

 

...not to mention this event actually happened online with vatsim... fortunately no controller online

Thats odd since Im guessing the TU-154 uses mechanical controls and not fly by wire.

Thats odd since Im guessing the TU-154 uses mechanical controls and not fly by wire.

Yes, it's a pretty complex system but I guess some glitch in FSX made it loose even hydraulics or made a full elevator down input or whatever happened... In reality it's very rare to get a complete electrical failure on the Tu-154, and if it does you still have limited control of your inputs and you can transfer hydraulic pressure trough the pumps from the engineers panel. This flight made it this way: http://englishrussia.com/2011/11/04/the-lucky-tu-154/

 

Now when we speak of fly by wire I wonder what would happen in reality if such a plane shorted out... :(

They'd glide to the site of the accident... Or in the case of the Gimli glider into history. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_Glider

 

I believe this was the longest glide in history for a commercial airliner. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Transat_Flight_236

 

Can't comment on FSPassengers as I don't have it.

The gimli glider was impressive but that was fuel starvation instead of a complete electrical failure and had it's backup systems from the rat.

 

Real life aircraft however do glide, the scenario that happened for me in FSX wouldn't be possible in real life I'm very sure of it.

I'd say that one or more of your fspassengers should have been screened a little better before boarding the aircraft. :o

 

Seriously, I'm thinking something went dreadfully wrong with FSX or possibly your operating system and it turned your aircraft into a brick.  I've had a few flights in which my controllers suddenly stopped working, the result was a death dive or ailerons locked into a rollover.

It sure felt like one hell of a chechen bomb going off rather than an electrics failure due it spiralled out of control in a matter of seconds... Fortunately it has only happened once and I'm currently on cruise on a longer flight, will hope the aircraft doesn't desintegrate this time :unsure:

 

My inputs worked and I could see movement of the yoke inside the cockpit, but didn't do anything at all during the dive... I assume in your case you mean that the software of the controllers suddenly crash and thus the ailerons/elevators lock themselves in a full deflection? I would assume a complex addon would notice that there is something wrong with the phsysical inputs and thus freeze the sim, like the Tu154 does.

Were you using the iceV10 gauge and flying in icing conditions?

 

Hook

Were you using the iceV10 gauge and flying in icing conditions?

 

Hook

No, I do not have this gauge, but I checked up the gauge and surely looks interesting if it can model ice buildup correctly. The fault wasn't ice though.

 

My flight after the mishap had some unusual events to it such as aircraft vibrating occasionally for long periods of time, rudder moving from side to side in small amounts occasionally and looking at the instruments the aircraft looked occasionally as if it was in constant turbulence. Not to mention the autothrottle disconnected repeteadly sometimes as low as 5 minutes after reengaging it. (Yes, autothrottle of Tu154 is forbidden during cruise but I'm pretending copilot has control of engines as my workload is very high). All of these events happened with autopilot engaged while on cruise.

 

Odd events in FSX... lately.

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This may be of interest  http://aviation-safety.net/database/types/Tupolev-154/database

This may be of interest  http://aviation-safety.net/database/types/Tupolev-154/database

These real life incidents have nothing in common with what I'm experiencing apart from some similarities with certain flights.

 

However it's interesting to note most of the crashes happened 1990-1994, one of the worst years of life with almost non existant maintenance. I will never forget...