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Auto spoilers not arming

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Its still happening but if i disable it, it works fine guys?

 

Exactly as I thought, and mentioned a couple times already in this thread.

 

The more accurate representation of what's going on can be described by hardware "spikes."  As opposed to what I was saying earlier, the software isn't paying attention to the constant stream of information.  It only pays attention when that information changes.  That being said, you could have the spoilers at 25% on your hardware, stow them in the sim (either using the mouse, or hitting '/' a few times) and they would stay there.

 

...until the hardware spikes, or sends a value anything other than 25%.  At that point, the sim sees the change and defers to the hardware position again.  You'd see the same thing if you hit T/D.  The sim will pull the throttle back as part of your normal throttle modes.  It will remain at idle until the hardware spikes, and then it will go right up to the forward stops (because that's where most users leave their throttles after takeoff)...there goes your descent.

 

 

 

TL;DR:

Any time you see issues that disappear when you disconnect your hardware: it's the hardware.

Kyle Rodgers

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Hi, i already know you mentioned it buddy but was just waiting till it happened again and report back!

 

So what can i do about this then? Appears to be no solution

Vernon Howells

Hey buddy ever thought  that your hard ware could be faulty,  which you could get it fixed or  replace it since you already tried  all the other  solutions  given to you ie changing  the key assigments etc

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Peter kelberg

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This could be faulty hardware? Its not even that old. I'll just arm them manually by clicking on it, suppose that will give it more realism :)

Prob best to replace it as i have stuck on 737 throttle levers, flaps and spoliers kinda glued them on lol

Vernon Howells

  • Commercial Member

 

 


So what can i do about this then? Appears to be no solution

 

Remove the hardware axis assignment.  I said it in post #4.

 

The alternative is to buy better hardware that is more precise / produces fewer spikes.

 

 

 


This could be faulty hardware? Its not even that old.

 

New doesn't mean it's less prone to faults, or poor manufacturing processes.

Kyle Rodgers

  • Author

I'm looking at new stuff from go flight. Anyone recommend any good hardware?

 

Don't think its the axis assignment for my spoiler lever its the button under it? Or is that the axis assignment, just not sure!

Vernon Howells

Before you go and  purchase another  one,  have you got any other issues  with other payware aircraft or is it only  the ngx  you have issues  with?

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Peter kelberg

  • Commercial Member

 

 


Don't think its the axis assignment for my spoiler lever its the button under it? Or is that the axis assignment, just not sure!

 

An axis is a movable range, like a lever. Your yoke has two axes - X and Y.  The throttle is yet another axis.

 

You know, there exists this concept in the world called troubleshooting.  If you're unsure of something, isolate it.  My bet is that it's the axis.  Buttons don't usually have spikes, so they don't usually trigger things.  So, disable the spoiler axis, and try that out...something I have said at least three times now...

 

Usually, when multiple people tell you something, it's a good indication that you should pay attention to them.  To be honest, I'm not even sure why you posted this because it doesn't seem like you're doing a good job of reading, or paying attention to any of what is written here.

Kyle Rodgers

  • Author

Hi, i only study and use the NGX.

 

It's quite impossible for me to do any troubleshooting at the moment as i'm 2000 miles away on holiday. I'm only saying that this only happens with the button assignment and not the spoiler axis but yes next week i will try removing the spoiler lever axis but that has no connection with my button assignment which is having the problem!

Vernon Howells

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Kyle i have picked you up wrong! I understand what you are saying.

 

Think its best to assign the commands through the FMC control options?

 

 

Found this on avsim-

 

 

The problem is that you are using the axis ranges to send FSX native spoiler commands rather than using the PMDG panel's spoiler controls. The FSX spoiler logic is hopelessly dorked. In the NGX's FMC you can set keyboard shortcuts for spoilers down, arm/disarm, 50%, flight detent, and full down. In the FMC options page I assigned Shift-F1 through Shift-F5 (that last one in my post above was a typo, should be SHF-F5 instead of SHF-F4) as those keyboard shortcuts for spoilers, and then programmed FSUIPC to send those keystrokes as the lever enters defined axis ranges. The difference between my way and yours is that I send those commands directly to the PMDG panel without inviting FSX to bring its inner retard to the party

Vernon Howells

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