I really like this plane, but would also like to know how to change its tendency to violently pitch up when adding flaps. Great job overall!KP

I have far more time in an SR22 than an SR20, but in both (real) aircraft upon extending flaps, the balloon is pretty pronounced. It may be overdone a bit in this model, but at Cirrus factory training, they teach owners to counteract the ballooning tendencies with substantial yoke pressure. Upon retracting the flaps, especially in an SR20, there's a pretty definite sinking feeling in the real airplane. Less noticeable in the SR22, which climbs like a rocket.I agree with other posters, this is a really nice freeware package. Only nits I've found so far are the presence of deice in the SR20 (not available in the real one), and the stall behavior is much more gentle in the real plane. I suspect this is related to the wonderful parachute sequence, but I noticed in this sim model, at stall speeds, there's a strong tendency for a wing-over. In fact, my first two stall attempts resulted in spins! Obviously I've never done THAT in my Cirrus...Great job, guys!Mike

I just made a longer flight in this plane and can say that I really love it! This is such an outstanding add-on, I'm just amazed it is freeware. The pdf manual is top notch as well. Well done!!!KP

It's a pretty cool plane, indeed.According to Guenter's Site, he has had over 8000 Downloads there, and here at Avsim there have been over 3100 Downloads thus far.Great Aircraft, can't wait for his FREEWARE SR22 With Glass Entegra Panel down the road a bit. Now that will be sweet along with this visual model.Regards,JoeGrab My FREEWARE Voice recognition Profiles here:[a href=http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?CatID=fs2004misc&DLID=58334]Cessna 172 Voice Profile[/a][a href=http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?CatID=fs2004misc&DLID=60740]FSD Avanti Voice Profile[/a].You will need the main FREEWARE Flight Assistant program to use it, get it here:[a href=http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?CatID=genutils&DLID=39661]Flight Assistant 2.2[/a]

Absolutely wonderful plane, guys....The parachute is incredible, as the rest of the plane. THANKS!!!-Dasher7

I downloaded this plane yesterday and took it out for a quick tour. Everything looked great until I touched ground again, at which point the plane pitched nose-forward & crashed. I reset the final approach, tried to keep it level, and went pitch-up and another crash onto the tail. My realism settings are almost maxed out (but not quite).I'm not new to flightsimming but I'm not a real-world pilot. I also haven't had this problem with other planes (freeware or default fs9), but for some reason I thought maybe the SR20 was overloaded. When I went to the fuel & payload settings, I saw that my fuel was at 92%, there was a full load of 170-lb occupants (pilot, co-pilot, 2 passengers), and 50lb luggage. I tossed 3 occupants out of the plane, dropped fuel to 10%, and had no problems landing after that.This is NOT a knock on the gorgeous & immensely enjoyable SR20, just a question. Is this behavior normal? Should 92% fuel and full passenger load make an aircraft so dangerously unstable on landing?

I downloaded this awesome aircraft this past weekend, and I must say first...AWESOME job guys! One of the sweetest aircraft out there.Okay, Zapped, I'm no expert but IMHO 92% of fuel is waaaaayyyyy too much for landing. I know that large aircraft must dump fuel in emergencies before landing on full or near-full tanks to save damage to airframe and/ or gear. Granted they have more fuel but the structural members on the Cirrus are also much much lighter than a five-seven. Just for giggles I decided to recreate your landing experience. At 1000' on the glide I paused it and set fuel to 92%, then unpaused, retrimmed and completed the approach. Nasty! On both attempts it did exactly what you experienced: either crashed the nose gear through the tarmac or overcompensated and put the tail into the earth. I'd say anything below 40% fuel and full passenger load is acceptable for landing with this airframe, but I'm no expert. Happy Flying!

I think I must be asleep...but I cant find the email address for the author of this SR20. I would like to write to him to say "thank you".Can someone help! :)

"I'm no expert but IMHO 92% of fuel is waaaaayyyyy too much for landing"For the most part, this statement is not correct.Provided there are no other W&B issues at play here, such as being over gross or having CG well out of the envelope, there is absolutely nothing wrong with landing with 92% fuel in almost any GA aircraft. The comparison to airliners does not apply. Almost no GA aircraft has this limitation. They are all able to handle this structurally, and this is not extreme by any means, provided the plane is not otherwise overloaded or out of CG. Then, of course, if such is the case, one is flying an "experimental" aircraft, and anything might be possible.In fact, most GA aircraft of this type will almost always depart with full tanks, and if the flight is short, may easily be landing with 90% or more fuel on board. I do this all the time in my Piper Dakota, especially when I go up to practice landings at my home field; my first landing will be with almost 100% fuel on board. The plane can handle it without any issue.So, it is best not to make comparisons to airliners in this regard as the comparison simply does not apply. ;-)Regards,http://www.dreamfleet2000.com/gfx/images/F...R_FORUM_LOU.jpg

:)Learn something new everyday!Thanks for the correction, Lou. I suppose if I remebered that GA do touch-and-go's all the time....duh.Oh well, at least I'm not a real world pilot not knowing this, eh?Thanks again.

When you build a better mousetrap, the world beats a path to your door... You gotta use a mouse to get it, so its a "mousetrap!" ;-)

Thanks very much for duplicating this behavior, Ozark Dogfighter. But now that I see Dreamfleet's response that 92% fuel & full passenger load shouldn't be a problem for landing GA aircraft, I'm wondering if anybody else has any thoughts on this specific problem. Should the aircraft.cfg be modified in some way - like maybe its net weight is set too high or something?

Well after playing some more with it yesterday I was able to correct my landing. I guess I was coming in too hard for this plane, and my attempt to compensate on the next one was not hard enough, lol, because now I can land her full and with 95% fuel no problem. Have you tried the landing anymore since? Maybe just needs some practice with her like I did. :)Luck to ya!

In real live you should set the right trimming when you are going to land with full loading. (Nearly the same behavior in our FS9 SR-20. Wolfram did a really good job on doing the FD

:)That made my day, Thomas, reading your response. You are very welcome for the response, as I think I speak for all of us on this. I thank you for dedicating so much of your time and effort into making this great little plane! Sadly there are quite alot of payware designers that have lost this passion for what they do, if indeed they ever had it to begin with. It's a huge rush for me to see a product, especially in the FS community, that has the care and devotion of it's creator woven into it. To all freeware modellers, scenery designers, sound editors, etc; Thanks alot for making them, and sharing them with us.-JeremyThe Ozark DogfighterHappy Flying!