I added a short post in "The Outer Marker" on FlightSim.Com factually pointing out that there were two threads on the subject of the DSB Harrier on the A**** site. The post was at 12:34 BST.It's already removed by the Adminstrators!I leave comments to others.

If I were Nels I would have removed it also. The threads here are going downhill fast and I don't think the situation at the Other Site would have been any different. May as well get rid of the thread before someone says something they'll regret later. In fact, it's surprising to me that the Mods haven't applied the padlocks to the threads here.Doug

I seriously doubt (hope) that wasn't the reason for removing the post and also hope nobody here locks the thread either. Things are all too easily brushed aside and forgotten in days, and locking a thread as important as this one would only accelerate forgetfulness.As for the deletion at Flightsim, I imagine that was because it was encouraging visiting another site.http://www.dreamfleet2000.com/gfx/images/F...BANNER_PAUL.jpg

>I added a short post in "The Outer Marker" on FlightSim.Com>factually pointing out that there were two threads on the>subject of the DSB Harrier on the A**** site. The post was at>12:34 BST.>>It's already removed by the Adminstrators!>>I leave comments to others.Did you try leaving a copy of this message at flightsim.com? I just checked and if you did indeed do so, then they removed it as well because there's no mention.

>I seriously doubt (hope) that wasn't the reason for removing>the post and also hope nobody here locks the thread either. >Things are all too easily brushed aside and forgotten in days,>and locking a thread as important as this one would only>accelerate forgetfulness.>>As for the deletion at Flightsim, I imagine that was because>it was encouraging visiting another site.>>http://www.dreamfleet2000.com/gfx/images/F...BANNER_PAUL.jpgI believe (opinion only) that there is much more to flightsim refusing to acknowledge this discussion than fear from members jumping to another site; or dread that the discussion would get out of hand........but bad advertising for one of their supporters sure comes to mind.If such is the case, then apparently dollars speak louder than the moral issue of breach of copyright.

THE FOLLOWING CAN BE VERIFIED WITH TOM A.(AVSIM) AND NELS A.(FLIGHTSIM)Before I started this "thing" here, I have written to BOTH TOM and NELS, explaining my case, my motives, and my goal, and asking for their permission to start it on their forum.NOT to support me, NOT their opinion and NEITHER their involvement: just to ALLOW my post.I have received reactions BOTH from Tom AND Nels.Tom allowed me to write it at AVSIM. Period.Which explain why these posts here are NOT locked.Nels, with all due respect, refused.For reasons he explained to me and that I can perfectly understand AND accept. And which has nothing to do with the contents of my case, ME, or the company I have a problem with. Period.Which explains why these posts ARE locked/removed at Flightsim.PLEASE, IT IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT.Regards, Rob Barendregt

I don't see the point of dragging FlightSim.com into this.Or is it to be if you are not with us you are against us ??Who's actions or in-actions are to be scrutinized next ? Try to stay focused on the real culprits on this issue.Regards.Ernie.

< I don't see the point of dragging FlightSim.com into this.Hi Ernie, I hope this wasn't intended for me ??Trying to stay focussed on the real culpits, is exactly what I am trying to do. I hope others will as well.Best regards, ROb

>Hi Ernie, I hope this wasn't intended for me ??I didn't mention any names, the point is clear (I hope).Regards.Ernie.

I only made the original post. There seemed no point in trying another one.

I didn't drag FlightSim.com into this.I posted there I thought their members might be interested in seeing the two threads here on this subject because they didn't seem to have been discussed there. I made no comment one way or the other on the merits of the discussion.Then I told what happened to my post.

Hi Paul,Just to avoid any misunderstandings and other speculations:Take it from me that this is NOT the reason why Nels refused.In fact, the exact opposite.One of the arguments used by Nels (and I firmly believe that) for refusing was that they (flightsim) couldn't put pressure on DSB Design because DSB Design is NOT an advertiser there; infact, they have NO dealings with DSB Design at all.Again, this was only ONE of the arguments, with I, again fully accept and understand.Lets's please keep it at that...Best regards, Rob