July 31, 201510 yr Commercial Member Anyway, the KIAD flows would be nice and I've never seen how they do it up river at KBWI. PCT's arrival flows are downwind-and-direc-based. As an example, from the north, landing north, the aircraft will be placed on a downwind to receive a final couple vectors to turn them around. From the south, landing north, certain STARs are set up for direct transitions onto the IAPs. The basics are the STARs for IAD. The only true vectoring they do is a mock traffic pattern off of the STARs and onto the extended centerlines. The CAPITAL8 is the tougher one as it's all vectored. BWI is mostly the same with the SIDs and STARs being the general flows, especially now that they even give some of the info that used to only be in the TRACON SOP: the RAVNN STAR shows the example vectors off of RAVNN for 33 arrivals); while the ANTHM essentially shows how they used to vector off of EMI for the runway 10 (ROKTT leg) and 33 (JABRR leg) flows. DCA is the tougher one since it's wedged in between the other two. The CAPSS is a good example of the south arrival flow, though it's not to scale. KATRN looks like it's east of the airport, but it's actually on the LOC to the field. The leg up to PACKK has them essentially go up to the American Legion Bridge to fly the Riv Vis inbound. The CLIPR does the same but from the NE, placing the aircraft on the "downwind" for either 1 or 19 flows. The rest cover different angles, all on the same principle of placing aircraft on the downwind. Departures were a little more tricky, but with the new SIDs, it's easier to see. BWI has had hybrid SIDs for its procedures for the longest time, so those I'm sure everyone knows pretty well. With the exception of a couple limited turns right at the beginning, it was along the SID routes. IAD's are now more visible with the SIDs added in the past year. The toughest one to explain to people in the past is now visible in the RIGNZ (what I was describing in Tutorial #1.5 is shown there), though the STOIC and PRYME that popped up in the past briefly showed it. DCA used to be all vectored, and then they put out the NATIONAL departure to help eliminate verbiage from the clearances. I never thought they'd add the RNAVs, but this latest rounded added them, and each one covers what used to just be vaguely outlined as vector guidance in the past SOPs. Still...it would be nice to have the flows visualized all in the same picture like that N90 tool. Kyle Rodgers
April 18, 20188 yr On 1/08/2015 at 12:50 AM, scandinavian13 said: This might be of help when getting into the N90 (NY TRACON) area: http://tfmlearning.fly.faa.gov/NY_Airspace/NY_Airspace_Pkg/NY_Airspace.swf Kyle The above link (to a great aid) seems to "have changed" or ........ Can you help / advise how to .... Thanks for now, cheers john martin
April 18, 20188 yr Commercial Member 5 hours ago, vadriver said: The above link (to a great aid) seems to "have changed" or ........ Can you help / advise how to .... Looks like they dropped a subdomain out of the path ([...].fly.[...]), so the new link is: http://tfmlearning.faa.gov/NY_Airspace/NY_Airspace_Pkg/NY_Airspace.swf Kyle Rodgers
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