September 15, 201510 yr Library Administrator Evening Simmers, I recently upgraded to Windows 10, maybe not recently but within a few months. Since that time, on 3 separate occasions, I have had a total lockup with P3D. I didnt CTD, it froze my computer solid and I had to do a hard reboot. All 3 times, I have been flying the NGX, and 2 of the times were in the 4 corners region, but I fly through there regularly so that cant be it. Any ideas on what would cause the sim to freeze my system? I am not OC at all. Thanks. Brian A. Neuman Proud simmer since 1982 using the following simulators: Sublogic Flight Simulator 1 and 2. Microsoft Flight Simulator 4.0, 5.1, FS95, FS98, FS2000, FS2002, FS2004, FSX (and unfortunately Flight!). Terminal Reality Fly 1 and 2. Sierra Pro Pilot, Looking Glass/Eidos/Electronic Arts Flight Unlimited I, II and III, Laminar Research X-Plane 7, 8, 9, 10 and 11, FS Aerofly 2, Lockheed Martin Perpar3D 2.X, 3.X, 4.X and 5.X and Microsoft Flight Simulator (2020). Not to mention numerous combat simulators and games related to flight that I have played with over the years. System: Intel I7-7700K-Water Cooled, 32GB Ram, GTX 1080Ti, 500gb SSD, 1TB HD and dedicated 1TB and 2TB SSD's for Flight Simulators
September 15, 201510 yr Not knowing your system config is hard to tell but I guess your video card or video driver is at fault.. Jorge
September 15, 201510 yr If you look at Guru3d or the nVidia GeForce forums, you will see plenty of threads about this and it has to do with a bug in the Win 10 video drivers that occurs with a variety of PC video games and nVidia video cards. Either the PC locks up completely or your app crashes with the message "the display driver has stopped working and has recovered". The only workarounds at this time are to use either older Win 10 video drivers or developer drivers that are not even considered as legitimate betas.
September 15, 201510 yr If you look at Guru3d or the nVidia GeForce forums, you will see plenty of threads about this and it has to do with a bug in the Win 10 video drivers that occurs with a variety of PC video games and nVidia video cards. Either the PC locks up completely or your app crashes with the message "the display driver has stopped working and has recovered". The only workarounds at this time are to use either older Win 10 video drivers or developer drivers that are not even considered as legitimate betas. Or roll back to Windows 7 which some have done with great success.
September 15, 201510 yr Out of curiosity are you running SLI? I too have similar issues, but only when I try to turn on SLI.
September 15, 201510 yr Author Library Administrator I have no idea what SLI is, and I am ready to drop back to Win7 as I like Win10, but not so much to deal with these random crashes, as it ruins a flight... Anyways, my system is as follows: Intel i5-3550 3.30ghz 8 GB Ram 64bit Win10 AMD Radeon HD7800 Thanks for your input so far. It is very random and has happened like 3 times out of 30-50 flights. It isnt regular, but happens enough to be a concern. Brian A. Neuman Proud simmer since 1982 using the following simulators: Sublogic Flight Simulator 1 and 2. Microsoft Flight Simulator 4.0, 5.1, FS95, FS98, FS2000, FS2002, FS2004, FSX (and unfortunately Flight!). Terminal Reality Fly 1 and 2. Sierra Pro Pilot, Looking Glass/Eidos/Electronic Arts Flight Unlimited I, II and III, Laminar Research X-Plane 7, 8, 9, 10 and 11, FS Aerofly 2, Lockheed Martin Perpar3D 2.X, 3.X, 4.X and 5.X and Microsoft Flight Simulator (2020). Not to mention numerous combat simulators and games related to flight that I have played with over the years. System: Intel I7-7700K-Water Cooled, 32GB Ram, GTX 1080Ti, 500gb SSD, 1TB HD and dedicated 1TB and 2TB SSD's for Flight Simulators
September 15, 201510 yr Unfortunately, I know nothing about the AMD Win10 drivers, but the situation doesn't look much better than with nVidia: https://community.amd.com/thread/184785 https://www.reddit.com/r/AdvancedMicroDevices/comments/3hoy1i/r9_390_and_windows_10_display_amd_driver_has/
September 16, 201510 yr Author Library Administrator Well, I cant go back to Windows 7 unless I do a full wipe as I have passed the 30 day grace period. I am going to pull my computer off the floor and put it on my desk for better air circulation and dust the interior and hope it is simply a heat problem... Brian A. Neuman Proud simmer since 1982 using the following simulators: Sublogic Flight Simulator 1 and 2. Microsoft Flight Simulator 4.0, 5.1, FS95, FS98, FS2000, FS2002, FS2004, FSX (and unfortunately Flight!). Terminal Reality Fly 1 and 2. Sierra Pro Pilot, Looking Glass/Eidos/Electronic Arts Flight Unlimited I, II and III, Laminar Research X-Plane 7, 8, 9, 10 and 11, FS Aerofly 2, Lockheed Martin Perpar3D 2.X, 3.X, 4.X and 5.X and Microsoft Flight Simulator (2020). Not to mention numerous combat simulators and games related to flight that I have played with over the years. System: Intel I7-7700K-Water Cooled, 32GB Ram, GTX 1080Ti, 500gb SSD, 1TB HD and dedicated 1TB and 2TB SSD's for Flight Simulators
September 16, 201510 yr The real fun is going to start when windows 10 starts deciding when you are going to get a new GPU driver whether you want it or not.
September 16, 201510 yr if you have Windows 10 pro you can control that... Jorge As long as MS says you can and they could change that control in a New York second.
September 16, 201510 yr Hi Brian. Are you using MSI Afterburner or MSI Gaming App? Both of these programs are currently causing problems with DirectX in W10 resulting in Games 'freezing' (similar to the symptoms you describe). Stupidly expensive rig, nonplussed Memsahib, disinterested offspring and a fascinated cat as Rio. XP11, P3Dv3 and an Oculus Rift.
September 18, 201510 yr Author Library Administrator Hi Brian. Are you using MSI Afterburner or MSI Gaming App? Both of these programs are currently causing problems with DirectX in W10 resulting in Games 'freezing' (similar to the symptoms you describe). No, I dont think so as they do not sound familiar at all. It happened again today. 1 more time, I am doing a full clean install of Win7, and P3D and see if that does it. Its a good thing I am kind of a packrat when it comes to my installers. Brian A. Neuman Proud simmer since 1982 using the following simulators: Sublogic Flight Simulator 1 and 2. Microsoft Flight Simulator 4.0, 5.1, FS95, FS98, FS2000, FS2002, FS2004, FSX (and unfortunately Flight!). Terminal Reality Fly 1 and 2. Sierra Pro Pilot, Looking Glass/Eidos/Electronic Arts Flight Unlimited I, II and III, Laminar Research X-Plane 7, 8, 9, 10 and 11, FS Aerofly 2, Lockheed Martin Perpar3D 2.X, 3.X, 4.X and 5.X and Microsoft Flight Simulator (2020). Not to mention numerous combat simulators and games related to flight that I have played with over the years. System: Intel I7-7700K-Water Cooled, 32GB Ram, GTX 1080Ti, 500gb SSD, 1TB HD and dedicated 1TB and 2TB SSD's for Flight Simulators
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