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Windows 10 is a better Windows 7 — if you can get the upgrade to work

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I guess the upshot of this is that if after hearing about some of the possible privacy and other issues you still decide to make the jump, either be sure to do a clean install or at least make a backup first!  :Shame On You:

 

A friend has now updated to 10 without telling me, and BOOM her sound card and printer have no driver for 10, and retreat is failing big time. Of course I'm the "Friend who knows stuff about computers" who is supposed to fix it....... :-/

 

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/215451-windows-10-is-a-better-windows-7-if-you-can-get-the-upgrade-to-work

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I've upgraded many computers with 0 problems. I don't know if I'm lucky, or if other people are just bad at clicking buttons.

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I guess the upshot of this is that if after hearing about some of the possible privacy and other issues you still decide to make the jump, either be sure to do a clean install or at least make a backup first!  :Shame On You:

 

A friend has now updated to 10 without telling me, and BOOM her sound card and printer have no driver for 10, and retreat is failing big time. Of course I'm the "Friend who knows stuff about computers" who is supposed to fix it....... :-/

 

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/215451-windows-10-is-a-better-windows-7-if-you-can-get-the-upgrade-to-work

 

 

Just out of curiosity, has she upgraded from Windows 8 or 7? I wasn't missing any drivers when I upgraded from 7.  Now that doesn't mean Microsoft has every driver for every piece of hardware ever made. Also, I installed some drivers of my own, downloaded from the manufacturers' websites.  Is it possibly old hardware, no longer supported by its manufacturer?

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Is it possibly old hardware, no longer supported by its manufacturer?

Just use Windows Updates. I installed W10 on a 10 year old LG laptop with a Pentium M single core, 1GB RAM, AC97 audio, and Intel Centrino wireless and Windows Update was able to download the drivers for everything after I used an ethernet connection.

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Just use Windows Updates. I installed W10 on a 10 year old LG laptop with a Pentium M single core, 1GB RAM, AC97 audio, and Intel Centrino wireless and Windows Update was able to download the drivers for everything after I used an ethernet connection.

 

I quite agree. The transition from 7 to 10 was far superior to xp to 7

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I had some .NET Framework issues with other software as well as some other bugs that I didn't have on Windows 7. Tried it out for a month or two, but I'm going to wait a bit to go back to Windows 10.

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I had some .NET Framework issues with other software as well as some other bugs that I didn't have on Windows 7

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Just out of curiosity, has she upgraded from Windows 8 or 7? I wasn't missing any drivers when I upgraded from 7.  Now that doesn't mean Microsoft has every driver for every piece of hardware ever made. Also, I installed some drivers of my own, downloaded from the manufacturers' websites.  Is it possibly old hardware, no longer supported by its manufacturer?

 

I tried to respond last night but the forum was having issues, sorry.

 

Anyway, yes, it was that the companies in question considered the hardware old enough that they decided not to create windows 10 drivers. Obviously if you are using Windows 8 there's probably less of a chance of this happening. And she was jumping From 7 to 10

 

The experience has made me cautious enough to go out to the various websites and check to make sure my own hardware is supported with Windows 10 drivers (should I ever decide to switch)

 

This is also an issue for software that may not be supported, or just flat won't work with Windows 10, like SecuRom or SafeDisc protected stuff. http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/how-to/windows/how-play-safedisc-securom-drm-games-in-windows-10-3623760/

 

Some helpful update error codes. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/upgrade-install-errors-windows-10

 

Google "Windows 10 installation errors" for a look at some of the possible issues.

 

While the vast majority of installs probably go fine, you don't want to be caught flat-footed if you are one of those with an issue. Luckily for me, I have a tablet that lets me get on the web to research issues, even if I'm at a friends house. Not so nice if your one and only computer is down with an error message you have few ways to look up!

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This is also an issue for software that may not be supported, or just flat won't work with Windows 10, like SecuRom or SafeDisc protected stuff. http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/how-to/windows/how-play-safedisc-securom-drm-games-in-windows-10-3623760/

 

MS also released the patch that "broke" SafeDisc and SecuROM in Vista, 7, 8.1, and 10: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/09/23/windows-update-disables-safedisc-drm-7-8-vista/

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MS also released the patch that "broke" SafeDisc and SecuROM in Vista, 7, 8.1, and 10: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/09/23/windows-update-disables-safedisc-drm-7-8-vista/

 

Yup, bumped into that article as well. The problem is that the solution may come at the cost of leaving your pc less secure. In fact, the response from many people aware of the problem has been patches which can sometimes themselves be dangerous and arguably illegal depending on where you live and who you are listening to. (unintended consequences)

 

This might only be relevant to this forum because FS9 is apparently affected.

 

To their credit, Microsoft do provide instructions on the update page for how to manually turn the driver back on. This involves either typing commands into command prompt or editing the registry to make the change permanent, though Microsoft are still keen to stress that the “workaround may make a computer or a network more vulnerable to attack by malicious users or by malicious software” and so if you do turn it on, you’d do well to turn it off again once you’re finished playing whatever game you wanted to run.

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I would try to start REX and end up looking at a black square for several minutes until it finally loaded. I'm running REX and Windows off an SSD while on Windows 10. REX loads instantly on Windows 7 with no problems. Tried uninstalling and reinstalling .NET and REX with no luck. Tried using a .NET cleanup tool as well as some other things. Eventually I gave up after wasting hours on it and went back to Windows 7.

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How about installing in compatibility mode? That goes all the way back to '95. Of course, that may not work for drivers. And if you are just pointing device manager at an inf file on your hard disk, maybe S-O-L.

 

Good luck.

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Yup, just found My 1 year old HP deskjet printer (which supports windows 8) is unsupported for windows 10.

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Yup, just found My 1 year old HP deskjet printer (which supports windows 8) is unsupported for windows 10.

So you don't have Windows 10, yet you know your printer isn't compatible?

 

Most printers are plug and play...

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So you don't have Windows 10, yet you know your printer isn't compatible?

 

Most printers are plug and play...

 

Yes, its very easy to go to the device manufacturer and look up windows 10 compatibility for the device. In this case, the manufacturer says not supported, no drivers, and recommends you look into one of their nice new printers that does work with windows 10

 

It's made more complex because this is a wireless printer, requiring specific software.

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So you don't have Windows 10, yet you know your printer isn't compatible?

 

Most printers are plug and play...

 

Hey Devon,

 

Not trying to tell you your business. I thought it was strange that a 1 year old printer would be unsupported. I went to this site and found that my 3 year old printer is supported. I print wirelessly as well:

 

http://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c04658195

 

Maybe you'll get lucky.

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When I say 1 year old I mean I brought it a year ago. Actually it is about 3 years old.
 

Your HP printer is no longer supported in this Windows version. You may want to consider purchasing a new printer. Go to the HP Store to upgrade to an HP printer that provides all the great features you are looking for in a Windows 10 compatible product.

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Your HP printer is no longer supported in this Windows version. You may want to consider purchasing a new printer. Go to the HP Store to upgrade to an HP printer that provides all the great features you are looking for in a Windows 10 compatible product.

 

Total BS by HP... It seems a lot of hardware/peripheral companies are taking advantage of the "W10 hype" by saying their products aren't compatible so that people buy their new ones. But let's be honest, who changes printers every few years? Edited by linux731

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Total BS by HP... It seems a lot of hardware/peripheral companies are taking advantage of the "W10 hype" by saying their products aren't compatible so that people buy their new ones. But let's be honest, who changes printers every few years?

Well of course its BS. They want me to get a new printer. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the printer works fine on windows 10, just HP is not going to bother supporting that.

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Hi dear,

I made several test with two image between Win7 and Win 10 Pro x64, all test with system clean, only drivers. My list of addons in my FSX: PMDG ( MD 11/B737/777), MD 82 Maddog, Concorde flight labs. Sceneries installed: all Brazil, all Aerosoft, all ORBX, all Taxi 2 Gate, all Latinvfr, all Flytampa, etc ... around 800 total sceneries , 300gb of addons inside of FSX. My machine configuration: Intel 3960X @4.8 + Sli 780TI + 960gb SSD + 16Gb DDR3 2400 C9 Corsair Dominator .

I have sure, like 1 + 1 is 2 .. Windows 7 work better than Windows 10. I lost around 10 FPS when was Windows 10 in same condition comparing Windows 7.

 

Also my FSX working more instable on Windows 10, I have more than 3 crash, i don´t know why, so I decide back to Windows 7. 

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I have the HP Photosmart 7960 printer that I got when XP was still the OS.   Soon after purchasing, Microsoft released Vista and then Windows 7 and HP officially stated they would not update drivers for the new OS's.  Still, Microsoft has released drivers with limited functionality and it does what I want it to do.  I am positive HP could have easily updated the drivers for the new OS's but, like some others have indicated, they do not update so many will go out and buy a new printer.  I am still buying their expensive ink cartridges so do not understand why they should not update the drivers as new ink cartridges are really where they make the money.  If the printer does not work when I eventually upgrade to Windows 10, I'll get rid of it as it has been good to me for many years now.

 

Best regards,

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I have an Epson photo printer because I do a lot of photography, which is my main hobby. It is so old that I can't remember exactly when I brought it. I think I was on XP at the time. I have had 2 desktop computers and 2 laptops since and am now on windows 10. I have had no problems at all with drivers. 

I should mention that my current desktop which has FSX onit started out as windows 7 and Has been upgraded first to windows 8 then 8.1 and now on windows 10.

I have done all this without doing a clean install and wonder sometimes when I see people on here having problems after doing clean installs if by trying to do the right thing, they are actually giving themselves problems. 

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Windows 10 trashed my bluetooth keyboard and no amount of added or updated drivers would make it work. Lot of complaints about bluetooth not working with 10 so I hope they get this fixed eventually. 

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