Jimmy RFR

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Took a coffee break from flying passengers around the Alberta Foothills in FSEconomy to load up the dot org store, and low and behold, I was rewarded with the sight of this newly released Cirrus.

 

So, ahem, mini-review/first impressions coming in a short while.  :wink: 

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Well, yeah, it suddenly went all very fast.

 

You can download the manuals before buy here:

 

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B0pWpRNdieyRbVdYWW5OaTN3bDg&usp=sharing

 

And very good manuals they are too!  Of course, I had to try and figure things out before reading them... which wasn't really the brightest thing ever, but you know, 'new toy syndrome' and all!

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And very good manuals they are too! 

 

Thanks a lot. I'm no native speaker, so there may be manual "bugs", too. If you find any big issues with them, just send me a message and I will correct them.

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Here goes - my first impressions after flying and figuring out things for the last two hours.

 

- Great textures.  Really great, actually.  Modelling is superb as well.  I'm not a crazy nit-picker, nor would I be able to tell if something wasn't perfect to the real deal, but everything is very pleasing to the eye.  The only caveat might be the pilot / co-pilot, which aren't terrible, but don't match the really superb modelling of the rest of the aircraft. I do wish the pilot was hideable while the ground elements are showing.

 

- A lot of depth to the PFD / MFD.  That MFD full engine page looks superb.  I love the checklists, and the ability to display your own charts is nice as well.

 

- I found the icons/font on the map to be very hard to read unless I zoomed in on the MFD quite close.  I'm not sure if this is doable or realistic, but it would be nice if the map icons and names increased in size as you zoomed in on the map with the range dial.  Right now, zooming way in still results in itty bitty airport / fix / vor icons and names.

 

- I thought the use of the SD card graphics for the clickspots to open/save flight plans was quite smart.

 

- Flight plan entry really requires one to read the manual first.  Once that advice is followed, it works quite nicely.  I did find the use of the FMS inner knob to be a bit annoying, however, thank you vFlyteAir for making custom commands for binding keys / buttons to the FMS keypad.  That is greatly appreciated.

 

- The aircraft handles pretty well on the ground, and seems as it should in the air.  Not going to comment much on that since I'm not a pilot, and unless something was glaringly obvious, it'd likely escape my attention.  Speeds seem spot on though, and it hand flies very nicely.

 

- I have mixed opinions about the sounds.  At idle it sounds good, and of course the custom stuff is great.  However, at higher revs it sounds like there's an audible loop, or roughness that repeats.  Also, when applying throttle, the engine sound doesn't seem to smoothly increase - or it lags behind your application of throttle.  Hard to describe.  Might be realistic, but I wouldn't know.

 

- The parachute works as advertised... I just had to test it out!

 

- Performance seems very good. I keep my vsync at 1/2 though, so unless something knocks my frames below 30, I really have no perception of one aircraft being more demanding than another. 

 

Overall, I'm very pleased.  Well worth the money spent!

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Thanks for your nice review! I'll forward it to Walker, esp. the sound stuff.

 

- I found the icons/font on the map to be very hard to read unless I zoomed in on the MFD quite close.  I'm not sure if this is doable or realistic, but it would be nice if the map icons and names increased in size as you zoomed in on the map with the range dial.  Right now, zooming way in still results in itty bitty airport / fix / vor icons and names.

 

As stated in the manual and at the store website ("X-Plane default map with weather radar and traffic warnings with custom icons"), we don't use a custom map. Developing a custom map was not possible for us at this point. We have custom map icons, though, and we have made the default font a bit less blurry and gave it a black background, so overlapping identifiers are a bit better readable, but that's all we can do to improve the default map. Unfortunately it does not work so well for high resolutions.

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As stated in the manual and at the store website ("X-Plane default map with weather radar and traffic warnings with custom icons"), we don't use a custom map. Developing a custom map was not possible for us at this point. We have custom map icons, though, and we have made the default font a bit less blurry and gave it a black background, so overlapping identifiers are a bit better readable, but that's all we can do to improve the default map. Unfortunately it does not work so well for high resolutions.

 

Ah... I'll be honest, I don't know that I have or have flown any aircraft that use the default XP map.  Most of the time I stick to smaller aircraft, and they either all have a GNS unit present, or nothing at all.  So as much as I'd still like bigger icons and font, I completely understand that it's not able to happen!

 

And... thanks for the paint kit!

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that it's not able to happen!

 

For now. ;)

 

Looking forward to your paints!

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We have released an important hotfix that takes care of a bug with entering VOR waypoints into the FMC (and which also fixes some other minor bugs). I'm writing this here just in case here are customers who do not read the official forum:

 

http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?showtopic=89847#entry960882

 

We're now continuing our work on the first real update, which will also include two additional liveries.

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We have released an important hotfix that takes care of a bug with entering VOR waypoints into the FMC (and which also fixes some other minor bugs). I'm writing this here just in case here are customers who do not read the official forum:

 

http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?showtopic=89847#entry960882

 

We're now continuing our work on the first real update, which will also include two additional liveries.

 

Thanks for letting us know over here!

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Anyone have this beauty and can they give some feedback?

 

Thx.

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Help..I just installed this, into XPX.41, and I have no instruments, over half of the instrument panel has no working click points, etc....any suggestions?

 

Here is the plane up and running, with no way to turn on the instrument screens..

 

CirrusSR20_1.png

 

Post edit: Found the hot fixes...and will see if this corrects my install issues...

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Mario...what is the step by step procedure, to install this plane in the General Aviation folder, please..., and does all the hot fixes at the org...correct it all?

 

Thanks,

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Here goes - my first impressions after flying and figuring out things for the last two hours.

 

- Great textures.  Really great, actually.  Modelling is superb as well.  I'm not a crazy nit-picker, nor would I be able to tell if something wasn't perfect to the real deal, but everything is very pleasing to the eye.  The only caveat might be the pilot / co-pilot, which aren't terrible, but don't match the really superb modelling of the rest of the aircraft. I do wish the pilot was hideable while the ground elements are showing.

 

- A lot of depth to the PFD / MFD.  That MFD full engine page looks superb.  I love the checklists, and the ability to display your own charts is nice as well.

 

- I found the icons/font on the map to be very hard to read unless I zoomed in on the MFD quite close.  I'm not sure if this is doable or realistic, but it would be nice if the map icons and names increased in size as you zoomed in on the map with the range dial.  Right now, zooming way in still results in itty bitty airport / fix / vor icons and names.

 

- I thought the use of the SD card graphics for the clickspots to open/save flight plans was quite smart.

 

- Flight plan entry really requires one to read the manual first.  Once that advice is followed, it works quite nicely.  I did find the use of the FMS inner knob to be a bit annoying, however, thank you vFlyteAir for making custom commands for binding keys / buttons to the FMS keypad.  That is greatly appreciated.

 

- The aircraft handles pretty well on the ground, and seems as it should in the air.  Not going to comment much on that since I'm not a pilot, and unless something was glaringly obvious, it'd likely escape my attention.  Speeds seem spot on though, and it hand flies very nicely.

 

- I have mixed opinions about the sounds.  At idle it sounds good, and of course the custom stuff is great.  However, at higher revs it sounds like there's an audible loop, or roughness that repeats.  Also, when applying throttle, the engine sound doesn't seem to smoothly increase - or it lags behind your application of throttle.  Hard to describe.  Might be realistic, but I wouldn't know.

 

- The parachute works as advertised... I just had to test it out!

 

- Performance seems very good. I keep my vsync at 1/2 though, so unless something knocks my frames below 30, I really have no perception of one aircraft being more demanding than another. 

 

Overall, I'm very pleased.  Well worth the money spent!

Well, until I can perhaps get some help from you...this has been my experience.:

 

Purchased it.

 

Installed the folder.

 

Ran XP,   chose the plane,

 

Had the cockpit, but half of the instrument panels click points and controls do not work.   Have no instrument screens.  Went to the outside view, and slowly advanced the throttle....the plane went on its tail...and started doing uncontrolled wheelies around the airport.   

 

Shut down the sim.

 

Found the hot fixes and applied them as directed.   

 

Fire up the sim....and the plane sitting at the airport, still no FMS, MFD's....control axis are reversed....and my sim is at 3 FPS, totally unusable.

 

Shut down the sim...and removed the Cirrus SR20 folder onto the Desktop.

 

Fired up the sim..and everything is good and back to normal....30 FPS....other planes work....flight controls...work....

 

 

Need some help please....with hotfixes in....this plane sitting in my General Aircraft Folder, tanks my sim. Something is wrong.  Any suggestions?

 

I mean...how simple should this installation be?   You open the zip....place all in a folder....transfer it over to the G.A. folder of the sim....and that should be it. 

 

Jimmy..how did you get this plane to work?  How did you install it?

 

Mitch

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As for no avionics,  Have you turned them on, they are off by default.(4th or 5th rocker switch from the left).

 

The other issues your having, I can not comment on. Plane runs great on my system. FPS is about the same as any carenado plane i have. Maybe even a little beter.

 

Installation should be straight forward and you said, just copy the folder in and your good to go. I suspect you may have something odd in your XP installation. 

Try disabling a few pluggins to see if there is a compatibility issue somewhere.  For the heck of it, try running updating X-plane again and see if anything was missing or corrupt.

 

Hope you get it worked out, its a really fun plane!

 

Rob

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Jimmy..how did you get this plane to work?

 

Mitch,  I haven't had the time to fly it in the past little while, so I haven't updated with any hotfixes.  Install was simple and straightforward, nothing special.  Unzip and place in an aircraft folder.

 

I had no issues as you describe, and I've seen a few screens from others so I'm assuming they haven't either. I'm thinking you might need to talk to VFlyteAir, or perhaps Mario will chime in??

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As for no avionics,  Have you turned them on, they are off by default.(4th or 5th rocker switch from the left).

 

The other issues your having, I can not comment on. Plane runs great on my system. FPS is about the same as any carenado plane i have. Maybe even a little beter.

 

Installation should be straight forward and you said, just copy the folder in and your good to go. I suspect you may have something odd in your XP installation. 

Try disabling a few pluggins to see if there is a compatibility issue somewhere.  For the heck of it, try running updating X-plane again and see if anything was missing or corrupt.

 

Hope you get it worked out, its a really fun plane!

 

Rob

Thanks Rob...will try to get this sorted out...really wanted this for sure!  Thanks for the tip...do all your click points work?

 

Mitch

Mitch,  I haven't had the time to fly it in the past little while, so I haven't updated with any hotfixes.  Install was simple and straightforward, nothing special.  Unzip and place in an aircraft folder.

 

I had no issues as you describe, and I've seen a few screens from others so I'm assuming they haven't either. I'm thinking you might need to talk to VFlyteAir, or perhaps Mario will chime in??

Thanks Jimmy...must be having a bad day...;(

 

I tried to send my log twice to Mario in PM, but the system now says that I can't post until tommorrow, 24 hours locked out?   Why?!?!?!?

 

Ok...time to turn off the computer...and get on with other things...

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Sesquashtoo, as I wrote in the other thread, please send me your log.txt. Without that, I have currently no idea why the screens don't come up.

 

Please also try to load the aircraft cold and dark, without running engines. Switch on battery 1 and avionics. Any difference?

 

Edit: I now saw your other postings as well. Send me your log file to mario.donick (at) live.de.

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Sesquashtoo, as I wrote in the other thread, please send me your log.txt. Without that, I have currently no idea why the screens don't come up.

 

Please also try to load the aircraft cold and dark, without running engines. Switch on battery 1 and avionics. Any difference?

 

Edit: I now saw your other postings as well. Send me your log file to mario.donick (at) live.de.

Thanks Mario...will do shortly...thank you!    The other weird thing, was as I gently applied throttle, the whole aircraft heeled back on it tail..and then started to spin and circle in larger circles, over the airport.  I cycled the throttles, but nothing was happening...like they were locked up.  I hope to get this all sorted out by today...and fly this beaut!

 

Mario, I have just sent you my XP.41 log to the email address you show here...and thank you!

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Hooray!   Went through fire-drills, and sorted out a conflict, got the plane working....and finally VERY NICE~

 

Mario...we are good....no need to delve into the log, unless you want to....

 

Here's the shots of my first in-cockpit and taxi to active....whew!

 

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CirrusSR20_5.png
 
 
 
CirrusSR20_4.png
 
Mario....almost ready for take-off....and LOVE the sound package...inside, outside, the engine clatter is superb!  The prop 'growl', grabbing some air, as you advance the throttle is the best that I have heard, bar none!  GAWD...am I happy to have this up and running...:)))))
 
The model is gorgeous...and love the glimmer given off of the wing....wow!   I surely recommend this bird!  Bye for now, folks.....have places to go...people to see....land to cover...
 
CirrusSR20_6.png

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In using this plane, on my system with a GTX 680 2GB...SkyMaxx is reporting only 38M left as Video RAM still available. I believe that it is the limits of my system, as this plane has LOTS of rendering features, such as all windows with rain drops, as soon as rain is evident.  So...your experience with a better card (more RAM), might yield better FPS performance than I can at the moment.  I'll  have to wait until I have a card with more vid resources...and hope the FPS readings climb back up! 

 

CirrusSR20_7.png

 

 

 

Post Edit:

 

Final comment.  By dropping my XP to the following settings (reasonable to be sure, and still nice...) as you can see, I got my FPS up to 16 on the ground...and that will climb as I climb.... so...each system will vary with this bird..but again...I do recommend it.  Beautifully rendered model, great sound package, and lots of features modeled, like very detailed rain drops covering the windows, where precipitation is seen. I have not had a chance to run with all the avionics...but will later read the manual...and do so.

 

CirrusSR20_10.png
 
 
CirrusSR20_9.png

 

 

Mario...good stuff!  Keep tweaking it...to get better 'n better...

 

Cheers,

 

Mitch'er

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So, I believe it was Catstrator who made the Youtube video and commented on the sounds.  Have those been improved since?  According to Sesquashtoo, sound is amazing.  So, curious if there have been improvements made or it's just differing opinions here.

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In using this plane, on my system with a GTX 680 2GB...SkyMaxx is reporting only 38M left as Video RAM still available. I believe that it is the limits of my system, as this plane has LOTS of rendering features, such as all windows with rain drops, as soon as rain is evident.  So...your experience with a better card (more RAM), might yield better FPS performance than I can at the moment.  I'll  have to wait until I have a card with more vid resources...and hope the FPS readings climb back up! 

 

CirrusSR20_7.png

 

 

 

Post Edit:

 

Final comment.  By dropping my XP to the following settings (reasonable to be sure, and still nice...) as you can see, I got my FPS up to 16 on the ground...and that will climb as I climb.... so...each system will vary with this bird..but again...I do recommend it.  Beautifully rendered model, great sound package, and lots of features modeled, like very detailed rain drops covering the windows, where precipitation is seen. I have not had a chance to run with all the avionics...but will later read the manual...and do so.

 

CirrusSR20_10.png
 
 
CirrusSR20_9.png

 

 

Mario...good stuff!  Keep tweaking it...to get better 'n better...

 

Cheers,

 

Mitch'er

 

You may already be aware of this about the performance...Mario (PM him) offers a low resolution version of the plane that has solved my FPS and stutter issues. I also had to use compressed textures in my preferences because I was hitting my 4GB limit on my video card. Plane flies great and fluid like the rest of my fleet....no need to turn anything down.

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