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Although I use the virtual cockpit, I take advantage of the separate 2D cockpit PMDG supplies in order to put an undocked radio panel on my second monitor.  This makes it easier to change radio frequencies while flying online on VATSIM.  I recently upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 10 and found that I cannot move an undocked panel to my second monitor. Is there some setting or technique that I'm missing that would enable me to move an undocked panel to my second monitor?

 

I have an Nvidia video card and am using the most recent drivers (361.91)

 

Thanks,

Don Stimson

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Although I use the virtual cockpit, I take advantage of the separate 2D cockpit PMDG supplies in order to put an undocked radio panel on my second monitor.  This makes it easier to change radio frequencies while flying online on VATSIM.  I recently upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 10 and found that I cannot move an undocked panel to my second monitor. Is there some setting or technique that I'm missing that would enable me to move an undocked panel to my second monitor?

 

I have an Nvidia video card and am using the most recent drivers (361.91)

 

Thanks,

Don Stimson

 

 

Thats strange. I have no issues with FMC,PFD,ND on 2 other monitors. What happens when you try to move them ?

 

Michael Moe

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It just moves them to the edge (and nearly all off-screen) of my main monitor.  It does not move them to my second monitor. 

 

More information...I am running FSX in windowed mode.  I can move the whole application to the other monitor, but not separate "pieces" of it.  I run in windowed mode so that I can easily access other applications (like vPilot, TOPCAT, and charts) on the second monitor.  If I run FSX in full screen mode, I can move panels to the second monitor, but the other applications I am running are blacked out on that monitor.

 

Don Stimson

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It just moves them to the edge (and nearly all off-screen) of my main monitor.  It does not move them to my second monitor. 

 

More information...I am running FSX in windowed mode.  I can move the whole application to the other monitor, but not separate "pieces" of it.  I run in windowed mode so that I can easily access other applications (like vPilot, TOPCAT, and charts) on the second monitor.  If I run FSX in full screen mode, I can move panels to the second monitor, but the other applications I am running are blacked out on that monitor.

 

Don Stimson

 

Not on my win10 machine right now but its not much different - right mouse click on your desktop and go to screen resolution

You need to make it extend as shown in pic - hope this helps

 

 

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Thanks Richard.  I already have it set that way, though.

 

Worked fine to move undocked panels to the second monitor in windows mode under Win7, but doesn't work for me after upgrading to Win10.  From reading sparse posts about this issue, I thought it had something to do with adding the task bar to the second monitor.  But you guys apparently aren't having this issue.

 

Don Stimson

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Thanks Richard.  I already have it set that way, though.

 

Worked fine to move undocked panels to the second monitor in windows mode under Win7, but doesn't work for me after upgrading to Win10.  From reading sparse posts about this issue, I thought it had something to do with adding the task bar to the second monitor.  But you guys apparently aren't having this issue.

 

Don Stimson

 

Don post a screenshot in my windows 10 in a minute - I am at home now - this is all you really should need to do - right mouse click on desktop and and click on display settings

 

Also my main screen is number 1 and number 2 is on my left - you just drag the number one left or right depending on where they physically are 

 

Try it again - I dont have menu bars on my other monitor nor should you have to

 

Do you have one monitor cable going into video card and the other going into another input into video card - you are not splitting them are you - not sure if it matters but throwing it out there 

 

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Try what again?  I have basically the same setup that you do except that my main monitor is on the left.  I've had this setup for years.

 

Don Stimson

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Try what again?  I have basically the same setup that you do except that my main monitor is on the left.  I've had this setup for years.

 

Don Stimson

 

Sorry ok you have done this and still having the issue - I will have to search around has to be something easy 

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Thanks Richard!  I've done some searching and can't find anything.  For what it's worth, I'm using FSX-SE.  But I confirmed the problem also exists with FSX.

​Don Stimson

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Thanks Richard!  I've done some searching and can't find anything.  For what it's worth, I'm using FSX-SE.  But I confirmed the problem also exists with FSX.

​Don Stimson

 

Don are you using latest driver for windows 10 - you have an nvidia card I would assume 

 

Lots of videos on the subject

 

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Windows+10+And+Fix+Second+Monitor

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Hey, what about resetting the NVidia profile in NCP? Can be kaput after a Win 10 upgrade. If not already tried, right-click desktop NVidia Control Panel, Manage 3D settings, choose FSX profile, Restore, Apply. May want to try a Restore with the overall profile too, gets rid of DSR settings and resets the screens.

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Thanks Steve.  I use Nvidia Inspector to set the 3D display adaptor setting for FSX.  Just did it again yesterday and verified the settings were shown in the Nvidia control panel.

 

Just to be clear guys, the second monitor works fine in all respects (can move windows between monitors, no flickering, etc.), ​except that I cannot move 3D panels (undocked windows) within FSX from one monitor to the other.  I can move the whole FSX window from one to the other, not just individual panels/windows.​

 

This is using FSX in windowed, not full screen, mode.  In full screen mode, I can move a panel over, but then my monitor cannot show any other windows since it is in full screen mode.

​Don Stimson

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Thanks Steve.  I use Nvidia Inspector to set the 3D display adaptor setting for FSX.  Just did it again yesterday and verified the settings were shown in the Nvidia control panel.

 

Just to be clear guys, the second monitor works fine in all respects (can move windows between monitors, no flickering, etc.), ​except that I cannot move 3D panels (undocked windows) within FSX from one monitor to the other.  I can move the whole FSX window from one to the other, not just individual panels/windows.​

 

This is using FSX in windowed, not full screen, mode.  In full screen mode, I can move a panel over, but then my monitor cannot show any other windows since it is in full screen mode.

​Don Stimson

 

I see ok thats better but I cant remember how do this in fsx as I havent used it a long time - hopefully fsx user can chime in here

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Thanks Steve.  I use Nvidia Inspector to set the 3D display adaptor setting for FSX.  Just did it again yesterday and verified the settings were shown in the Nvidia control panel

You did actually Restore the factory defaults Don? And then reset up your NI after that.

 

If not do that Restore now and the NI profile will actually be deleted, and have to be set up again. Easy way to create a new NI profile, before closing NCP, make one simple setting in NCP and Apply, the new NI profile will be created. Now go into NI.

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I have an Nvidia video card and am using the most recent drivers (361.91)

Thanks,

Don Stimson

 

Found this also - did windows update that driver or did you ? quote below from DTG forum

 

Hi Alan,

This is a common problem with multiple monitor setups. Microsoft installs its own Nvidia drivers in Windows 10. You will need to download and install the drivers directly from Nvidia rather than use the default ones that came with Windows.

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Thanks for spending all the time on this Rich.  You must like troubleshooting!  I always get the drivers direct from Nvidia.

 

Now for the drum roll....Steve, I used the restore button in the Nvidia control panel.  Before trying to customize them again for FSX, I powered up FSX-SE and the 737NGX.  Lo and behold, I can now move undocked FSX windows over the second monitor!  It works a little differently than it did in Windows 7 in that it now has a window border around it, but it works!

 

I have to tell you, I really didn't think this would have any effect and was just going through the motions to report back to you!  Thank you very much!!

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Now for the drum roll....Steve, I used the restore button in the Nvidia control panel

Get's them every time!

 

All the best.

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Thanks for spending all the time on this Rich.  You must like troubleshooting!  I always get the drivers direct from Nvidia.

 

Awesome I told you Hes the man and again comes thru - thanks Steve well done - glad its worked out Don

 

Get P3D and works great as you have switchs in P3D menu to help with these issues - Thanks Jeroen for that answer

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On 3/19/2018 at 3:31 PM, yadav_jeet said:

I want to setup my 2 monitors with my 1 cpu but i don't know how should i setup this. Today i visit a web page https://windowsclassroom.com/setup-dual-monitors-windows-10/ which explain briefly but i could not understand that. Can anyone please explain me that how should i connect my monitors.

Please answer

CPU or GPU big difference.

When CPU connect both to the mainboard then go to step 3

When GPU connect both to the GPU then procceed

Win 10 should manage it by itself if not:

right click on desktop -> display settings -> click identify -> drag the screens as required in the "image" above -> done.

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Maybe he means the on-chip GPU of his CPU like the Intel i7 has.

First, the in-built GPU is VERY weak and should not be used for P3D, and dedicated decent graphics card is needed to have good frames.

Second, if you want using multiple monitors with your on-chip GPU you may have to activate mulit-monitor support in your BIOS. I'm using the on-chip CPU to drive two side-monitors with undocked windows and had to activate the multi-monitor support.

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On 3/21/2018 at 1:20 AM, 30K said:

CPU or GPU big difference.

When CPU connect both to the mainboard then go to step 3

When GPU connect both to the GPU then procceed

Win 10 should manage it by itself if not:

right click on desktop -> display settings -> click identify -> drag the screens as required in the "image" above -> done.

Hello Sir, I have done setup my dual monitor but i have a question. Is there any shortcut keys to switch monitors or disable one monitor? 

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18 hours ago, JohnKarter said:

Hello Sir, I have done setup my dual monitor but i have a question. Is there any shortcut keys to switch monitors or disable one monitor? 

Hello,

What do you mean by switching? 

Maybe you look for win+p?

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