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Hi all!

 

Need your overclocking expertise!..I set up a 6700K system lately (see my signature), and tried to see how it overclocks yesterday.

 

I got at 4.8Ghz at 1.4v with HT off. Max temp was 70C and I scored 1051 marks.

 

I have the latest BIOS (F20) and in the BIOS settings I just changed the base frequency, v-core, HT-off and set the XMP profile. Timings was automatically set to 15-15-15-35 on Channel B. My cooler is a corsair H100i.

 

I am wondering why I score so low, given the fact that the scores I see with the 6700K are from 1300-1500 marks.

 

Is there any settings that I am missing maybe?

 

Also does the mark reflects P3D performance? I mean, 20% more in XTU reflects +20% more fps?

 

Your help will be very much appreciated :)


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4.7Ghz at 1.37v 1040 marks

 

Seems like 4.9Ghz is achieved around 1.43v.

 

However, the XTU marks are very low.


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Have you considered that you have HT off, and that the scores of others are probably HT on?

 

Have you tested with anything else other than XTU?

My ROG RealBench results for my 6700k, at 4.6 with HT on are...

 

Image Editing: 51791

Encoding: 183864

Open CL: 100032

Heavy Multitasking: 155068

 

System Score: 102682

 

CineBench: 1007

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Thank you Martin! Always helpful and spot on :)

 

Just run the ROG RealBench. at 4.8Ghz it was crashing on the encoding test. So I lowered to 4.7Ghz

 

The results I got are:
 

Image Editing :241698
Encoding: 147317
OpenCL: 93470
Heavy Multitasking: 143168

 

System Score: 137719 

 

Cinebench: 771 

 

Actually you are better on everything except the Image Editing, even at lower frequency.  Still my results are not the expected.


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Actually you are better on everything except the Image Editing, even at lower frequency.  Still my results are not the expected.

 

 

 

But do you still have HT off? 

 

You cant expect to match my score if you have HT off.  :smile:

 

 

Okay, ignore my previous score, I rushed and messed up.

 

Ran it again and...

 

 

Image Editing: 227559

Encoding: 184260

Open CL: 100032

Heavy Multitasking: 186328

 

System Score: 154538

 

Don't forget to run RealBench Stress Test... it's all I use these days. Run it for one to two hours. All you need.

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Thanks Martin. :smile:  Ok, I was running with HT off before. I now swithed to Ht-on at 4.6Ghz to compare fairly. What I got is:

RealBench:
 

Image Editing :233834
Encoding: 177125
OpenCL: 93470
Heavy Multitasking: 179262

 

System Score: 152228

 

Cinebench: 964

 

 

So, I suppose I should not worry? But don't you use HT-on for FSX-P3D? I'm coming from an i5 and little confused with the proper setting for HT.


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Yep, you are all good, don't worry. :smile:

 

Each run Of RealBench will generate a slightly different score so we will never match exactly.

 

 

So, I suppose I should not worry? But don't you use HT-on for FSX-P3D? I'm coming from an i5 and little confused with the proper setting for HT.

 

 

 

I don't sim any more to be honest. Got bored with it after all these years. Just BF4, BF1 and Elite Dangerous Horizons at the moment.

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Yep, you are all good, don't worry. :smile:

 

Each run Of RealBench will generate a slightly different score so we will never match exactly.

 

 

 

 

I don't sim any more to be honest. Got bored with it after all these years. Just BF4, BF1 and Elite Dangerous Horizons at the moment.

 

 

Feel better now :) Oh, ok! I really liked BF4 :) But good to have you here, your experience is very helpful again thank you :)


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XTU for best score , HT-on fast memory tight timings high uncore high CPU freq

Cinebench HT-on high uncore high CPU freq

Rog RealBench benchmark. CPU speed , 4 fast sticks ,980ti for open cl test

My score on RealBench is + 171000 at 5ghz with 980 Non ti watercooling ambient 20c.

I run 4x8 at 3600mhz cl14

 

Bench marks like XTU, Cinbench , Rog RealBench can be tricky to get high scores be aware that Its lot of tweaks.

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Thank you very much westman for the input :)

 

What I am interested in is best tuning my system to achieve maximum performance in P3D..I assume that a higher score would indicate a better tuned system, but I'm not 100% if its that the case.


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Ifikratis - do not underestimate the importance of not only the basic memory timings but the sub-timings as well. They put me from about 1200 to my current HT on XTU score of 1550.

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Hello Garrett, thank you :)

 

I upload images from my BIOS maybe, you or anyone can spot something. Also about sub-timings, that's important info ! Any suggestions? :)

 

With HT-on I find my max at 4.6Ghz and 1.41v for stability. I could possibly go at 4.7 but I will go higher on v-core which I don't feel very comfortable to.

 

So far, my results in P3D are astonishing. I can fly the NGX on Simwings EGLL on steady locked 30fps, while before I was ~20fps. Unlocked it was ~35-40 fps. All sliders to the right and all shadows on. However if a +200 mark points increase in XTU can be reflected in P3D, its something I'm certainly interested to get.

 

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Turbo Boost appears to be turned off. Turn it back on and ensure that the CPU is clocking to 4.6Ghz properly when benchmarking. And don't split hairs between 4.6Ghz and 4.7; we're worried about the huge deficit here and not the minor difference between 100mhz.

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Turbo Boost appears to be turned off. Turn it back on and ensure that the CPU is clocking to 4.6Ghz properly when benchmarking. And don't split hairs between 4.6Ghz and 4.7; we're worried about the huge deficit here and not the minor difference between 100mhz.

 

To my understanding the Turbo boost is boosting the frequency to the top value when needed. However I had the base clock set already to 4.6Ghz so it wouldn't make a difference.

 

However I did enabled Turbo Boost and set all 4 turbo to 4.6 too to test. I got 1059 marks.


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