November 19, 20169 yr Turbo Boost appears to be turned off. Turn it back on and ensure that the CPU is clocking to 4.6Ghz properly when benchmarking. And don't split hairs between 4.6Ghz and 4.7; we're worried about the huge deficit here and not the minor difference between 100mhz.What huge deficit? There isn't one. He had HT off and was comparing to results with HT ON. You may not have read all of the posts. His OC is fine. No more tweaking required. Stress test with RealBench and he's good to go. No point at all messing about for miniscule gains, just to get a slightly bettet score. Any "fine tuning" will yield pretty much nothing in terms of frame rate increase. My advice is don't stress, relax, enjoy your new system. We build our systems to run the sim and other apps... not achieve a few more points in a bench mark.
November 19, 20169 yr There isn't one. Speak for yourself, Martin. With a 6700K (HT on) @ 4.7Ghz, I get an XTU score of 1560. Memory at 3333Mhz with timings of 14-14-14-34-2T. Also, here's my realbench: image editing: 228704 encoding: 189593 opencl: 103313 heavy multitasking: 181054 system score: 155003 Garrett Frank
November 19, 20169 yr Also, here's my realbench: system score: 155003 And he's getting 152228 in RealBench and beats you on Image Editing. Perfectly acceptable score. Especially When RealBench generates different results each time you run it. And that's at his 4.6 rather than your 4.7. As for XTU... as I said, he was running with HT off, and comparing to results with HT on. He has zero problems and any further "tweaking" in an attempt to match your score or my score would be pointless and would yield results that are minuscule in terms of frame rate. As Hasse said... Bench marks like XTU, Cinbench , Rog RealBench can be tricky to get high scores be aware that Its lot of tweaks. Worth remembering that just because you get high scores in synthetic stress tests and benchmarks, doesn't necessarily mean it will automatically translate into significantly improved performance in the applications you run. To ensure a new system is roughly in the ballpark it should be in, fine, tuning for fun, fine. If you happen to be someone like Westman, a competitive overclocker then it's different, and tweaking to achieve max scores are for a different purpose. But for the rest of us... not necessary at all. He can tweak here and tweak there, adjust this and fiddle with that, and nudge his benchmark sores up... but he wont be suddenly throwing his hands in the air as a result, because he's achieved flight sim Nirvana. We are all free to do what we like though, so if he fancies tweaking for the fun of it, fair enough.
November 19, 20169 yr Author Thank you very much for the input and valuable help to this guys. :smile: Of course I am not going to any overclocking competition so the actual score numbers themselves are not my goal. If the XTU score is not a realistic representation of performance in P3D or any other app then I don't mind. As martin said on the RealBench benchmark I get anticipated values so then I'm pretty happy with that. I would be concerned if on all tests I was getting far less. by the way when XTU is testing, one can see that the CPU is going from idle to max utilization all the time, so maybe that's why the ram speed and timings can make a difference. On flight sim the RAM is constantly feeding the CPU so maybe will not make a so big difference. My performace in P3D has sky-rocketed from my i5 3570K..and this tells me that the system did made a big difference.I use [email protected], HT-on, AM=87 currently. Simulators: Prepar3D v5.4 | X-Plane 12 | DCS World | MSFS 2024 | PC Hardware: Dell U3417W | AMD Ryzen 7 9800 X3D | ASUS TUF 5070 Ti | ASUS TUF B580 Plus Wifi | G.Skill Z5 Neo 64GB 3000Mhz CL30 | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB + 970 EVO Plus 1TB + 860 EVO 2TB + 850 EVO 1TB, Western Digital Black Caviar Black 6TB | Corsair RM1000i | Corsair 280 Titan RX | VRM Fan | Fractal Design Define S2 Gunmetal | Flight Controls: Fulcrum One Yoke | Virpil VPC WarBRD Base | Virpil VPC MongoosT-50CM Grip, Thrustmaster Warthog+F/A-18C Grip | VIER IM POTT Sidestick CPT Side | Thrustmaster TPR Rudder Pedals | Virtual Fly TQ6+Throttle Quadrant | Sismo B737 Max Gear Lever | Monsterteck Desk Mounts | WINWING EfisL+FCU+MCDU | My fleet catalog: Link
November 19, 20169 yr What kind of voltage is that by the way. Fixed, offset or adaptive. I'm at 1.36 @ 4.6, Adaptive. Is that the lowest your chip goes at 4.6?
November 19, 20169 yr Author It should be fixed voltage.The setting can be seen below. I didn't see any option for adaptive voltage. I revert to default BIOS settings when not flying.Yes, XTU crashed once on 1.4v so I increased to 1.41 and it didn't. But haven't stressed tested yet, this is to be done. Simulators: Prepar3D v5.4 | X-Plane 12 | DCS World | MSFS 2024 | PC Hardware: Dell U3417W | AMD Ryzen 7 9800 X3D | ASUS TUF 5070 Ti | ASUS TUF B580 Plus Wifi | G.Skill Z5 Neo 64GB 3000Mhz CL30 | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB + 970 EVO Plus 1TB + 860 EVO 2TB + 850 EVO 1TB, Western Digital Black Caviar Black 6TB | Corsair RM1000i | Corsair 280 Titan RX | VRM Fan | Fractal Design Define S2 Gunmetal | Flight Controls: Fulcrum One Yoke | Virpil VPC WarBRD Base | Virpil VPC MongoosT-50CM Grip, Thrustmaster Warthog+F/A-18C Grip | VIER IM POTT Sidestick CPT Side | Thrustmaster TPR Rudder Pedals | Virtual Fly TQ6+Throttle Quadrant | Sismo B737 Max Gear Lever | Monsterteck Desk Mounts | WINWING EfisL+FCU+MCDU | My fleet catalog: Link
November 19, 20169 yr Worth remembering that just because you get high scores in synthetic stress tests and benchmarks, doesn't necessarily mean it will automatically translate into significantly improved performance in the applications you run. Yeah, no crap Martin. That's the first rule in benchmarking club. Ah well, glad I could help. What do I know anyway? Garrett Frank
November 20, 20169 yr Have start a project compare differnt cooling from air to custom water Coolers CM 212evo, Noctua NH-D15, Corsair 115I, Custom water. CPUs 4770k and 6700k Here is a screen with the 6700k @4.7ghz 1.25v stresstest 15min with Rog RealBench. https://www.dropbox.com/s/cym9w045su5c2np/RB4.7v1.25.png?dl=0 http://
November 22, 20169 yr Author Hello westman! 4.7 Ghz @ 1.25v on air cooler and 55 C? Simply amazing! I need 1.41v for 4.6Ghz on a water cooler (H100i) ! I see 7 utilization cores, so I suppose its with HT-On! Is there any trick to decrease the vcc requirement or just silicon lottery? Simulators: Prepar3D v5.4 | X-Plane 12 | DCS World | MSFS 2024 | PC Hardware: Dell U3417W | AMD Ryzen 7 9800 X3D | ASUS TUF 5070 Ti | ASUS TUF B580 Plus Wifi | G.Skill Z5 Neo 64GB 3000Mhz CL30 | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB + 970 EVO Plus 1TB + 860 EVO 2TB + 850 EVO 1TB, Western Digital Black Caviar Black 6TB | Corsair RM1000i | Corsair 280 Titan RX | VRM Fan | Fractal Design Define S2 Gunmetal | Flight Controls: Fulcrum One Yoke | Virpil VPC WarBRD Base | Virpil VPC MongoosT-50CM Grip, Thrustmaster Warthog+F/A-18C Grip | VIER IM POTT Sidestick CPT Side | Thrustmaster TPR Rudder Pedals | Virtual Fly TQ6+Throttle Quadrant | Sismo B737 Max Gear Lever | Monsterteck Desk Mounts | WINWING EfisL+FCU+MCDU | My fleet catalog: Link
November 22, 20169 yr 4.7 Ghz @ 1.25v on air cooler and 55 C? Simply amazing! I need 1.41v for 4.6Ghz on a water cooler (H100i) ! The D15S beats the H100i actually. But I won't irritate people by blabbering on about that again. :smile: Is there any trick to decrease the vcc requirement or just silicon lottery? Hasse has a top-notch chip. I think he said it was delidded too.
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