Bobsk8

Northern Rockies KFCA airport ramp problem

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Seems like everything at KFCA in the Northern Rocky FTX puts the aircraft undergound, by about 15 feet. All I can see is the top of the tail in fixed wing or top of rotor head in Copter. If I launch on the runway, everything is OK. This also applies to KGPI which is the new code for this airport. I am using P3D version 3.4 and have a;; the NA Orbx FTX regions and this is the first time I have had a problem. Wondering if anyone else has seen this issue. 

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I don't recall seeing this before in 3.4, and I've just checked in v4. The airport lookds good here, do you have Vector installed as well? I found vector to be more trouble than it's worth.

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Yes, it's there in P3Dv4.

Looked thru my P3Dv3.4 installation in the Vector\FTX_VECTOR_AEC directory and I don't have an AEC file for either KFCA or KGPI so I can't tell if this has always been a problem. Never flew into either of these airports.

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I don't have vector, and the only thing i have is UTX USA, but I haven't had any issue with all the other NA FTX regions . 

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54 minutes ago, Twenty6 said:

Yes, it's there in P3Dv4.

Looked thru my P3Dv3.4 installation in the Vector\FTX_VECTOR_AEC directory and I don't have an AEC file for either KFCA or KGPI so I can't tell if this has always been a problem. Never flew into either of these airports.

When you say "It's there" , do you mean you see the same problem or you don't see any issue? 

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Have you looked in UTX to see if it has it's own altitude correction files for KGPI/KFCA? I don't have mine installed to V4 yet to check.

 

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1 hour ago, Dave_YVR said:

Have you looked in UTX to see if it has it's own altitude correction files for KGPI/KFCA? I don't have mine installed to V4 yet to check.

 

I have no idea how to do that.  

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a tool i like to use is the simple airport scanner:  http://www.scruffyduck.org/simple-airport-scanner/4584282795

from the ade guys, its free

99% of the time i have weird elevation problems at addon airports it's because of duplicate sceneries that i didn't remember about, often vector stuff (the elevation corrector does not always find them ..). and mytraffic6 bgl files are also a big source of shenanigans...for a lot of these you can just rename the unwanted files to something like KFSA_somethingorother.bgl.OFF and see if it solves the issue..

edit: perhaps one other thing to check is orbx generally suggests 5m mesh resolution, i know at KMRY for example the elevations will be wrong if you have 1m set.

good luck!

cheers,-andy crosby

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1 hour ago, spesimen said:

a tool i like to use is the simple airport scanner:  http://www.scruffyduck.org/simple-airport-scanner/4584282795

from the ade guys, its free

99% of the time i have weird elevation problems at addon airports it's because of duplicate sceneries that i didn't remember about, often vector stuff (the elevation corrector does not always find them ..). and mytraffic6 bgl files are also a big source of shenanigans...for a lot of these you can just rename the unwanted files to something like KFSA_somethingorother.bgl.OFF and see if it solves the issue..

edit: perhaps one other thing to check is orbx generally suggests 5m mesh resolution, i know at KMRY for example the elevations will be wrong if you have 1m set.

good luck!

cheers,-andy crosby

Got it set a 5mm, and found  bgls for that airport in My Traffic, deactivated it and same problem. . 

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25 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

Got it set a 5mm, and couldn't find any bgls for that airport in My Traffic. 

mine shows one called BGR2_KFCA.BGL

interestingly, i don't have it disabled.. and don't see troubles at the airport either haha! maybe the scenery order matters in this case or something..

i dunno, hopefully that scanner tool can show which bgl is conflicting..

cheers,-andy crosby

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1 hour ago, spesimen said:

mine shows one called BGR2_KFCA.BGL

interestingly, i don't have it disabled.. and don't see troubles at the airport either haha! maybe the scenery order matters in this case or something..

i dunno, hopefully that scanner tool can show which bgl is conflicting..

cheers,-andy crosby

Yes, I found that one when I ran the scanner the second time. I disabled it, and same problem. I posted on the Orbx forum so I will see what they come up with. 

 

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I believe I found the problem. I did a search as Orbx support  suggested and came up with 3 files for KFCA . One of the files was named ADE_FTX_NRM_KFCA_elevation adjustment.BGL It was located in P3DV3/scenery/world/scenery It was dated 5/13/2010     The "elevation adjustment" goi my attention so I decided to put passive on the end of the file.  I reloaded KFCA and now my aircraft is the correct place on the ramp sitting on it's landing gear on top of the pavement.:biggrin:

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