July 24, 20178 yr I think it is finally solved. I thought switching off verbose on the Aerosoft Airbus had solved it, but it started doing it again...that was probably grasping. Don't want to jinx myself but after unchecking 'enable Optimizations' the problem appears to be fixed. Several flights completed with FO staying with me all the way..
July 25, 20178 yr Author I did jinx myself, it just did it again. I'm out of ideas, i guess there's no fix for this problem.
July 25, 20178 yr Commercial Member 5 hours ago, jimble said: I did jinx myself, it just did it again. I'm out of ideas, i guess there's no fix for this problem. To see if it is aircraft specific, suggest you fly a different aircraft once, on the same route. MCE supports 40 complex aircraft, and at higher depth than products from the competition that are supposedly aimed at specific aircraft. There are code sections that are only touched when specific aircraft are flown. If it's only happening with Aerosoft A3X series, it would be easier to focus on that and get it sorted. If possible, try to remembering the last request you made. Gerald R https://www.multicrewxp.com
July 25, 20178 yr Author Thanks for the reply. Well, so far it has not happened with the Majestic Dash 8, and has happened once with the Embraer, I will do 10 flights with the Airbus, and keep a diary to see if i can identify a pattern of when it does it (weather, stage of flight, last instruction etc).
September 9, 20178 yr i have this happening too :( sometimes the FO stops responding. I see the recognized text, but no interaction anymore, DHC 6 from Aerosoft.
September 9, 20178 yr Commercial Member 31 minutes ago, Deimos said: i have this happening too :( sometimes the FO stops responding. I see the recognized text, but no interaction anymore, DHC 6 from Aerosoft. Update to latest V2.7.2.6 here Thank you Gerald R https://www.multicrewxp.com
September 9, 20178 yr I am already on that version :( Clive passed out twice this flight, must be my flying. Restarting mce works
September 9, 20178 yr Commercial Member 4 minutes ago, Deimos said: I am already on that version :( Clive passed out twice this flight, must be my flying. Restarting mce works Are you using ATC? Native, RC4 or PF3 or Vatsim? Gerald R https://www.multicrewxp.com
September 9, 20178 yr vatsim is running, but no controller online and nothing was said to the FO before he became unresponsive the second time
September 9, 20178 yr Commercial Member Just now, Deimos said: vatsim is running, but no controller online and nothing was said to the FO before he became unresponsive the second time Are you using a joystick button to mute MCE (while holding it down) or the <END> keyboard key. When you hold them down, they suspend MCE reco completely until you release. Gerald R https://www.multicrewxp.com
September 9, 20178 yr no i don't, I did not touch anything on the keyboard and the only key set is the ptt key on my joystick for atc, will try the end key next time it stalls
September 9, 20178 yr Commercial Member 6 minutes ago, Deimos said: no i don't, I did not touch anything on the keyboard and the only key set is the ptt key on my joystick for atc, will try the end key next time it stalls That's what I meant. If you are using the joystick button and the option "UseWithVoxAtc=1" in mce.ini [GAMEPAD], next time the FO goes AWOL, first, try pushing the PTT for a couple of seconds and releasing it. I take it you're not simulating DEL key via FSUIPC.dll when pressing the specific joystick button. Another thing you could try, is disable the "Crew coordination" feature, wait 3 sends and re-enable it. Restart it MCE should be last resort, even if it doesn't affect your flight, which is the most important thing, and that's why we run MCE deliberately as an external process. Just need to narrow it down. Gerald R https://www.multicrewxp.com
September 9, 20178 yr re enabling does not help, neither does the end key I have to restart the client,
September 11, 20178 yr So I had it happen again, this time while checklist reading, all of a sudden my FO wet AWOL. She did not reply right away. This was the first time I noticed it directly when it happened and clicked the client window right away it right away and I got a standard mce has stopped responding windows error pops up. So I decided to wait it out. Sure enough the mce client became responsive again after few seconds. But no voice interaction was possible. So I muted my Mike in the client and waited out of a hunch. And what do you now, about a minute later all commands piled in. Not in the right order and this forced further questions by the FO, but another two minutes later she got her composure again for the rest of the flight. I tried both cpu extremes in the client. Did not seem to influence it. But everytime I just waited it out now the FO game back to her senses after approx two to three minutes after starting to ignore me with a bunch of phrases said during that time in tow. My CPU is an i7 4770k and I am running win 10. The stall out happens independently from p3d having a high or low load. I also cannot see any other process struggling for CPU time as p3d is with 50-60% the main user and no other process is over 3%. So I am really puzzled now by this.
September 11, 20178 yr Commercial Member 13 minutes ago, Deimos said: So I had it happen again, this time while checklist reading, all of a sudden my FO wet AWOL. She did not reply right away. This was the first time I noticed it directly when it happened and clicked the client window right away it right away and I got a standard mce has stopped responding windows error pops up. So I decided to wait it out. Sure enough the mce client became responsive again after few seconds. But no voice interaction was possible. So I muted my Mike in the client and waited out of a hunch. And what do you now, about a minute later all commands piled in. Not in the right order and this forced further questions by the FO, but another two minutes later she got her composure again for the rest of the flight. I tried both cpu extremes in the client. Did not seem to influence it. But everytime I just waited it out now the FO game back to her senses after approx two to three minutes after starting to ignore me with a bunch of phrases said during that time in tow. My CPU is an i7 4770k and I am running win 10. The stall out happens independently from p3d having a high or low load. I also cannot see any other process struggling for CPU time as p3d is with 50-60% the main user and no other process is over 3%. So I am really puzzled now by this. Are you manually assigning CPU affinities? If you do, make sure MCE has at least 2 cores to work with, because we run the entire speech engine inside "mce.exe" and it has its own threads that work by bursts. They sit idle for a while, and when some speech is detected, they need to run without hindrance. In addition, MCE itself is multi-threaded. You could going through the checklist and have a dialling command on the MCP that may take 10 to 15 seconds to complete, with ability to correct the value on the fly. And this has to be done via worker threads. On more reason why it's not a good idea to run the speech engine via an aircraft gauge. Since a few people have reported this behavior, it's worth looking at the potential issue. Gerald R https://www.multicrewxp.com
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