August 18, 20178 yr Hi folks, a couple of days ago I managed my second transatlantic flight KLM601 EGPK/PIK to CYQX/YQX -- this time without mid-air tankering! I planned the flight with a 1000BHP setting and fuel bias of P10.0. (Details below) During cruise I tried my best to hit the 1000BHP values for 8000ft RPM 1870, BMEP 151, 439LBS/h, 194 IAS, 224 TAS, gross weigth 90k. I noted BMEP/MP/RPM/FuelFlow/GS: IBROD 150 3.3" 2000 480 450 500 480 198 SUNOT 150 3.3" 2100 440-500 210 In essence: The fuel flow was much lower in comparison to my first flight to Gander with 600lbs/h (see my earlier notes in the threads why-engine-health-indicators-wear-and-tear and cruise-speed-on-long-distance-flights). However, even with planning on 1000BHP, adding P10.0 bias, and filling up to max fuel (574lbs) I had 1864lbs in my tanks arriving in Gander. Why? Well... Eventually the flight time was 9h18m, but SIMbrief had calculated 8h14m. This extra hour's 2000lbs plus 1864lbs equals roughly 3800lbs, which is close to the SIMbrief calculated EFOB 3.5 at YQX. So, could I set the power precisely? The power levers mainly adjust BMEP (ignoring here mixture controls), the propeller pitch lever adjusts the RPM. Here my question: Does the main propeller pitch lever allows truly only the FSX provide notches? The AFE smoothly slides the lever back back (for cruise setting) as if there were no notches. Due to the (FSX provided?) notches we can set RPM only in three viable settings. (Worth a ticket to PMDG?) Thanks, Andre(as) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ATC C/S KLM6FI EGPK/PIK CYQX/YQX CRZ SYS 1000BHP 11AUG2017 PHDFI 2335/2355 0809/0814 GND DIST 1871 DC-6 / R2800-CB16 STA 0830 AIR DIST 2016 CTOT:.... G/C DIST 1838 AVG WIND 273/018 MAXIMUM TOW 102800 LAW 80000 ZFW 83200 AVG W/C M018 ESTIMATED TOW 88330 LAW 72078 ZFW 68598 AVG ISA P001 AVG FF LBS/HR 1970 FUEL BIAS P010.0 PLANNED FUEL --------------------------------- FUEL ARPT FUEL TIME --------------------------------- TRIP YQX 16252 0814 CONT 3% 488 0013 ALTN YYT 1318 0033 FINRES 1100 0030 --------------------------------- MINIMUM T/OFF FUEL 19158 0931 --------------------------------- EXTRA 574 0015 --------------------------------- T/OFF FUEL 19732 0946 TAXI PIK 200 0020 --------------------------------- BLOCK FUEL PIK 19932 EGPK/30 TRN1K TRN N562 MAC DCT 5608N DCT IBROD DCT SUNOT DCT 5720N DCT 5725N DCT 5730N DCT 5635N DCT 5540N DCT 5345N DCT 5150N DCT BUDAR DCT YQX DCT CYQX/31 Andreas BergPMDG 737NGX -- PMDG J41 -- PMDG 77L/77F/77W -- PMDG B744 -- i7 8700K PC1151 12MB 3.7GHz -- Corsair Cooling H100X -- DDR4 16GB TridentZ -- MSI Z370 Tomahawk -- MSI RTX2080 DUKE 8G OC -- SSD 500GB M.2 -- Thermaltake 550W --
August 18, 20178 yr Commercial Member Just to make sure I am following. You mean the propeller lever only changes on increments and not as an axis? If yes how do you control it? Through FSUIPC with an axis? with the mouse? I have never seen this behavior, on my machine it works fluently, so I am wondering if there is something interfering with yours. Chris Makris PLEASE NOTE PMDG HAS DEPARTED AVSIM You can find us at http://forum.pmdg.com
August 18, 20178 yr Author 1 hour ago, Olympic260 said: You mean the propeller lever only changes on increments and not as an axis? Yes, left and right mouse clicks move the lever forward/backward in chunks so that in cruise flight there are only 3-4 positions, which don't let the BMEP or RMP increase too much. 1 hour ago, Olympic260 said: If yes how do you control it? Mouse. 1 hour ago, Olympic260 said: Through FSUIPC with an axis? Nope. 1 hour ago, Olympic260 said: on my machine it works fluently How? Mouse clicks? If not, could you try this as well? Thanks. Andreas BergPMDG 737NGX -- PMDG J41 -- PMDG 77L/77F/77W -- PMDG B744 -- i7 8700K PC1151 12MB 3.7GHz -- Corsair Cooling H100X -- DDR4 16GB TridentZ -- MSI Z370 Tomahawk -- MSI RTX2080 DUKE 8G OC -- SSD 500GB M.2 -- Thermaltake 550W --
August 18, 20178 yr Author 21 minutes ago, 19AB67 said: 1 hour ago, Olympic260 said: on my machine it works fluently How? Just found the CTRL-F3/F2 in the DC-6 introduction. Will try those, however the mouse clicks on the lever should also work precisely, should they not? Andreas BergPMDG 737NGX -- PMDG J41 -- PMDG 77L/77F/77W -- PMDG B744 -- i7 8700K PC1151 12MB 3.7GHz -- Corsair Cooling H100X -- DDR4 16GB TridentZ -- MSI Z370 Tomahawk -- MSI RTX2080 DUKE 8G OC -- SSD 500GB M.2 -- Thermaltake 550W --
August 18, 20178 yr Commercial Member 54 minutes ago, 19AB67 said: Yes, left and right mouse clicks move the lever forward/backward in chunks so that in cruise flight there are only 3-4 positions, which don't let the BMEP or RMP increase too much. Mouse. Nope. How? Mouse clicks? If not, could you try this as well? Thanks. I am using a lever on my yoke to control it. I did just now tested with the mouse and indeed I am seeing the same as you. However keeping left mouse key pressed and the mouse hand on the lever with the mouse wheel I can reduce/increase the propeller lever smoothly Chris Makris PLEASE NOTE PMDG HAS DEPARTED AVSIM You can find us at http://forum.pmdg.com
August 18, 20178 yr One really should plan to have a controller that has a variable slider or lever that you assign to the prop axis. I don't think I'd even try adjusting prop pitch with something binary like a mouse click or key press, changing RPM is just too dynamic and requires a slow change then adjustments. Dan Downs KCRP
August 18, 20178 yr The mouse wheel works with the propeller pitch. (also in many or most aircraft) I use FSUIPC and have mapped propeller pitch increase and decrease to controller buttons (using the repeat checkbox) and it works fine, with practice. [I think the actual command is prop pitch increase/decrease small. I don't have it in front of me to check.] Richard Chafey i7-8700K @4.8GHz - 32Gb @3200 - ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero - EVGA RTX3090 - 3840x2160 Res - KBSim Gunfighter - Thrustmaster Warthog dual throttles - Crosswind V3 pedals MSFS 2020, DCS
August 20, 20178 yr Author Ticket opened, passed to dev team. On 18/08/2017 at 7:50 PM, RichieFly said: The mouse wheel works with the propeller pitch. (also in many or most aircraft) Richard, thanks for the hint, can't check it now, but sounds actually also acceptable. On 18/08/2017 at 7:09 PM, downscc said: One really should plan to have a controller that has a variable slider or lever that you assign to the prop axis. Hi Dan, yes, this I will do on top. Andreas BergPMDG 737NGX -- PMDG J41 -- PMDG 77L/77F/77W -- PMDG B744 -- i7 8700K PC1151 12MB 3.7GHz -- Corsair Cooling H100X -- DDR4 16GB TridentZ -- MSI Z370 Tomahawk -- MSI RTX2080 DUKE 8G OC -- SSD 500GB M.2 -- Thermaltake 550W --
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