April 2, 200620 yr Moderator Can anyone please explain why I'm getting aircraft and other scenery objects with no textures? See attached screenshot.http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/146415.jpgI'm convinced it's because of the extra demands placed on my graphics card following the installation of Ultimate Terrain (Europe & USA) and possibly Ground Environment. Prior to last week I never had this type of problem.My Page File is 580Mb and I still have 420Mb of free memory. But maybe the 128Mb on my 9800 Pro can't hack it any longer.Any help gratefully received. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
April 2, 200620 yr Hi,I would suggest to uninstall video drivers, use a driver cleaner utility, and then reinstall.Hope this helps,Jimhttp://www.hifisim.com/Active Sky V6 Development TeamActive Sky V6 Proud SupporterHiFi Beta TeamRadar Contact Supporter
April 2, 200620 yr Moderator Hi Jim,After a system reboot everything returns to normal. I've had these drivers installed for ages. This is a new problem that happens to coincide with adding detailed scenery texture files.If it was a driver issue wouldn't it remain a problem? I don't want to seem ungrateful but as everything reverts to normal after a reboot I'm reluctant to pursue this line.Is there any utility that shows how much graphics card memory has been used or more importantly, how much is free?Cheers, Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
April 2, 200620 yr By any chance do you have Windows Memory Usage set to "system cache" instead of "Programs." It's been recommended as a tweak in the past to do so but actually cuases problems of the sort you're having...
April 3, 200620 yr Author I had a similar problem a few months back. It turned out to be (my fault) incorrectly installed files. For whatever reason some of my texture files (trees mostly) lost their extensions during install of one of the scenery adds, and I was getting all kinds of strange and 'buggy' issues...and looked very similar to yours.I also messed around with the video card and drivers at first, convinced that was the issue, but everything seemed to check out fine, and worked fine in other programs.I finally started searching my texture folders and found the problem, which was fixed by adding the correct extensions back on a few files.Anyway, may be worth taking a peek at you files. If you 'show' your extensions in exlorer (I still call it file manager) simply sorting by 'file type' would probably expose this problem if it exists.
April 3, 200620 yr Moderator Hi,Thanks for your reply. No I don't but what I didn't mention in my post was that I had switched aircraft several times so maybe the cache on the graphics card had run low.I've just remembered that I made some changes last week to the Terrain values in FS9.CFG. I'm now wondering if this could be responsible because apart from installing Ultimate Terrain (Europe and the USA) and Ground Environment I've made no other changes.When I get home I'll backup my FS9.CFG and let FS build a new one which will have the default Terrain values.More later... Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
April 3, 200620 yr Moderator Hi,Thanks for your reply. I'll check file extensions but this also affected aircraft and after rebooting the PC everything returned to normal so it seems like a long shot.I have changed some TERRAIN settings in FS9.CFG so I'm going to create a new one which will contain default values and see if that resolves it. This is a problem that has only occured in the last few days so seems linked to that change.I'm pretty certain my drivers are okay as everything was okay after the reboot.Cheers, Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
April 3, 200620 yr Author Strangely enough, it effected my aircraft textures just like your image. I think when the program is trying to find textures that are 'not there', it may 'tap' the recources by doing so. Just my quess.Hopefully it was only a temporary issue.
April 3, 200620 yr Hi Ray,You asked, "Is there any utility that shows how much graphics card memory has been used or more importantly, how much is free?"And the answer is Yes. Someone on these forums suggested a neat little utility named MemStatus, which displays bar graphs of main memory and video memory use. It can also run in background keep track of the maximum memory used during a session. It is freeware but I don't remember where I found it. The filename of my copy is: MemStatus_24.zipI'm sure a Google search will find it for you or drop me a note and I'll find you a link. R-
April 3, 200620 yr Moderator Hi,I've now checked my textures folder in FS9 and for the alrcraft affected in that screenshot. There aren't any that have lost their extensions.Thanks all the same. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
April 3, 200620 yr Moderator Hi Ron,I've found it - thanks. Here's the link for v2.5 http://allkindsofnasty.com/NuclearPlaygrou...emStatus&slim=1I'll have a play and see what it reports.Thanks, Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
April 3, 200620 yr Author >Hi,>>I've now checked my textures folder in FS9 and for the>alrcraft affected in that screenshot. There aren't any that>have lost their extensions.>>Thanks all the same.No problem...worth a 'look see' just to eliminate one potential problem.
April 3, 200620 yr Ray - I tried that utility a while back with mixed results. I also have 128MB 9800 Pro and the utility always reported 181MB of available video card memory. What does it show for yours?Doug Intel 10700K @ 5.1Ghz, Asus Hero Maximus motherboard, Noctua NH-U12A cooler, Corsair Vengeance Pro 32GB 3200 MHz RAM, RTX 2060 Super GPU, Cooler Master HAF 932 Tower, Thermaltake 1000W Toughpower PSU, Windows 10 Professional 64-Bit, 100TB of disk storage. Klaatu barada nickto.
April 3, 200620 yr Moderator Hi Doug,181Mb too. How strange. Maybe it uses some caching to boost the on-board memory?Anyway, after loading and with my aircraft sitting at the gate it say's 56Mb used (30%). After switching to another livery (same aircraft) it goes to 65Mb. A 3rd switch increases to 104Mb but then drops back to 75Mb. A 4th changes and it goes to a peak of 111Mb and drops back to 81Mb.A 5th change pushes used up to 118Mb reducing to 92Mb. A 6th results in 126Mb falling to 97Mb.A 6th change pushes it to 130Mb falling to 104Mb. A 7th change pushes it to 140Mb falling to 112Mb. An 8th change results in 152Mb (119Mb). A 9th results in 157Mb (127Mb). A 10th = 162Mb (137Mb).If I then switch to an outside view and slew around the aircraft the numbers go to 172Mb (166Mb) which is over 90% used. That would explain why I eventually lost the textures from scenery and aircraft. The card is very inefficient at clearing its cache.I know it's not normal to switch aircraft liveries multiple times but it does prove that it eats video memory and should be avoided. I'll run this with a normal flight and see what it reports.Very useful utility! My thanks to Ron.Cheers, Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
April 3, 200620 yr I just tried the same test Ray and my card doesn't act that way (I'm running the Omega 3.8.205 drivers). I used the LDS 767 and made eight texture swaps by selecting different liveries. The max was 75MB and it always falls back to 49MB no matter how many different livieries I load, one or eight. If I jump to an outside view and slew around the peak will go to 111MB but always drops back to 49 MB when the next aircraft is selected. Same with the PMDG 737. But I suppose the only way to get a valid comparison is if I was also using the Ultimate Terrain textures and I don't own either of those. I wonder, though, if there is something else going on that's stopping your video cache from clearing.Doug Intel 10700K @ 5.1Ghz, Asus Hero Maximus motherboard, Noctua NH-U12A cooler, Corsair Vengeance Pro 32GB 3200 MHz RAM, RTX 2060 Super GPU, Cooler Master HAF 932 Tower, Thermaltake 1000W Toughpower PSU, Windows 10 Professional 64-Bit, 100TB of disk storage. Klaatu barada nickto.
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