August 12, 200619 yr Hi,I am trying to construct a list of problems that I had/have with the demo. For what its worth I would rather write comments like this so that you guys can do your best to correct the problems rather than moaning about them:1. Cockpit flashing when outside the aircraftThe basics were that I was in the cockpit, pressed the S key so goto spot view and then the cockpit continued to flicker rapidly with weird 'corrupted' kind of colours (you know the bright purples and greens etc).2. Dialogs staying on screen for long periodsI had clicked on the choose aircraft button, selected an aircraft and clicked ok, then the aircraft dialog stayed onscreen (like a system hang) until the sim caught up.3. Loading dialogs sometimes disappearHad the black background while the flight was loading and the progress bar window in the center just disappeared4. FPS dropped to 0.6 when an engine was on fireI tripped the fault for engine 1 and the special effects was set on high, the result was 0.6fps while the effect was displayed. I set the special effects to low and the fps went up to 10 to 20.5. Clicked Reset Flight and the cockpit went blackThe outside scenery still displayed fine but the cockpit had no graphics at all, just black. See image below:http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/3428/image001am5.jpg6. Pressed ALT+ENTER to resize the screen from Full to Dialog and the FS screen still displayed on the desktop but only updated correctly in the dialog (so the fault was the graphics still displayed on the desktop when it should have refreshed to show my desktop). See image below:http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/3392/image002vs9.jpg7. I did an application switch from Photoshop to FS and the FS window did not update at all to show the aircraft, instead it still showed the photoshop grey background and the sound still played. Pressing the S key still resulted in FS changing viewed, I just could see that it was switching. I suspect this to be the same with any application and not just Photoshop. I had to restart FS to fix it.8. A self-shadow is being cast on the aircraft from what appears to be a box (ie the camera). So the nearer you zoom to the aircraft, the more the shadow covers the aircraft. I managed to rotate the camera at one point to see the corner of the box. See image below:http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/9914/image004zs6.jpg9. Cars are cut in half by fencesSee image below:http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/3424/image003sc9.jpg10. While it was raining I took off and the runway went all whiteSee image below:http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/1695/image005ol3.jpg11. Layers on the horizon generated by what looks to be the reflection on the water stoppingSee image below:http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/9016/image006mt5.jpg12. Display problems with the concrete and the grass swapping which one is displayed based on the camera rotationSee image below:http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/2449/image007xn9.jpg13. While FS was running I clicked the FSX.exe load icon again and received the "FS already running" message but my desktop also resized to half its vertical height and the bottom half was corrupted. This resulted in me having to reboot to fix the problem.14. The water on the further in the distance appears to crack rather than blending more. I figured this was because of the mipmapping level but changing it changed none of the blending of water.15. The water around some of the islands appeared to be far too bright and turquoise. This may have been my monitor brightness but the rest of the sea was the right colour, just the land close to the islands causing this problem.Other than those problems, I was very happy. I understand that what this demo represents may not be exactly what you guys are now working with but atleast I can offer some assistance on what I have.I had to turn off the auto-gen altogether as it killed the FPS.Thank you
August 12, 200619 yr Hi,1. See readme file.2. It takes some aircraft a good long time to load.3. I saw this too, but usually only the first load.4. Someone else has reported this too.5. See #1 and readme file.6. May be a video driver issue7. Same as #6?8. Would have to know the angle of the sun to know if there was something real casting shadows.9. See readme file.10. That is the sun reflected on the wet pavement. I've seen this in real life - almost blinded me!11. Someone else has also reported this.12. I have seen this "flashing" of ground textures as well - see readme file.Hope this helps,--Tom GibsonCal Classic Propliner Page: http://www.calclassic.comFreeflight Design Shop: http://www.freeflightdesign.comDrop by! ___x_x_(")_x_x___ Tom Gibson CalClassic Propliner Page
August 12, 200619 yr The Beaver flys great but will not turn for me in the water and yes I do have the rudders down.The CRJ is great in the mission but in free flight I can view the outside world via the 2D pannel but not the quarter views as they are part of the 3D cockpit... in 3D mode the windows are black from the inside.Just thought this was a good spot to toss up my problems too. :)
August 13, 200619 yr Hi,If you are not using rudder pedals to turn the Beaver I had to use the keyboard rudder controls (numpad 0 and Enter) to turn it, not my yoke. Auto-coordination doesn't seem to work on the water.Hope this helps,--Tom GibsonCal Classic Propliner Page: http://www.calclassic.comFreeflight Design Shop: http://www.freeflightdesign.comDrop by! ___x_x_(")_x_x___ Tom Gibson CalClassic Propliner Page
August 13, 200619 yr "Auto-coordination doesn't seem to work on the water."There are not many things I'm prudish about but auto-coordination is one of them. I assure you I never... ever... use auto-coord in any sim. :)Thanks for the response and I will try those keyboard controls.BTW - The 3D cockpit view problem in the CRJ went away... go figure. :-lol
August 13, 200619 yr I believe that some planes in real life have auto-coordination. Do you value realism? Then you should use auto-coord on those planes, even if it is against your religion to do so. :)Rhett Rhett 7800X3D ♣ 96 GB G.Skill Flare ♣ Gigabyte 4090 ♣ Crucial P5 Plus 2TB
August 13, 200619 yr >"Auto-coordination doesn't seem to work on the>water.">>There are not many things I'm prudish about but>auto-coordination is one of them. I assure you I never...>ever... use auto-coord in any sim. :)>>Thanks for the response and I will try those keyboard>controls.>>BTW - The 3D cockpit view problem in the CRJ went away... go>figure. :-lolSingle engine Beechcrafts all have auto coordination. Chris Miller
August 17, 200619 yr #10) rain and the white runway...I'll bet that when you start your flight in the rain everything looksfine and then after you get above a few hundred feet you notice thatthe runways turn white and as you get closer their is this 'hard shadow circle'beneath (and following) your airplane and as you land you get thisweird pixelated water reflection thing that wasn't there when you took off.I've got the same problem.Does your water also start flashing back and forth between normal andthis solid sky blue color?6800GT 256 8xAGP; Athlon64 3400+; 1.5GB DDR400 | Dave | I've been around for most of my life. There's always a sunset happening somewhere in the world that somebody is enjoying.
August 17, 200619 yr Hi,Thinking of odd shadows and this I picked up in the demohttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/154299.jpgthe shadow has a post running down to the bottom of the frame!Andy
August 17, 200619 yr Don't you know, that post is what keeps you in the air? :)Rhett Rhett 7800X3D ♣ 96 GB G.Skill Flare ♣ Gigabyte 4090 ♣ Crucial P5 Plus 2TB
August 17, 200619 yr Author Dave, your machine and my machine are almost the same, what kind of performace are you getting on it?Thanks,Bill Asus Tuf Gaming Plus B550 - Ryzen 7 5800X3D - Asus GeForce 4080 RTX OC Edition - 64GB DDR4 (3600Mhz) - EVGA 850W Power Supply - 2X 1 TB NVME PCIE gen 4 - Windows 11 (25H2)
August 18, 200619 yr Hi Bill -Yes, we do have a similar machine. I have 754 with 512KB cache andI'm running XP SP2. Also, my HD is ATA100. Other than that it lookslike we've got the same thing.I tried at first to check out performance by watching frame rates andchecking for general stutters and pauses. I tried: LOD radius - medium, 65, 38, 1, water 2.mid, scenery very dense, autogen dense. I hadturend up my frames from 20 to 30. Everything else I had left at defaults.I was getting low to mid 20FPS when flying/looking straight ahead buton turning my head or the aircraft, I got bad pauses.I dropped autogen to normal and scenery to dense. I'm using trilinearfiltering (frames locked at 20) and anti-aliasing. aircraft settings aremed high. on the weather tab - I set max cloud density. I can run smoothlocked at 20 with only minor stutters using either water 2.mid or 1.high.I've chosen 1.high becasue I believe it gives me more animals (whichI don't see many or often but I have seen birds a few times).Considering the similarities in our systems, I'm wondering if you haveany problems with rain. I get flashing water textures. I've triedthree versions of the driver (currently using 84.21 - b4 that: 91.31, b4 that: 71.??)and I've had either anti aliasing problems or flashing water problems(or both).Do you have anything like that or does your 'rain' work? | Dave | I've been around for most of my life. There's always a sunset happening somewhere in the world that somebody is enjoying.
August 18, 200619 yr Author Dave unfortunatly I have been away from my computer for a month and wont be back from till 2 weeks. Will let you know if I get that effect.Thanks,Bill Asus Tuf Gaming Plus B550 - Ryzen 7 5800X3D - Asus GeForce 4080 RTX OC Edition - 64GB DDR4 (3600Mhz) - EVGA 850W Power Supply - 2X 1 TB NVME PCIE gen 4 - Windows 11 (25H2)
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