Jack_Sawyer

FMC loaded an NGX flight plan

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In this screenshot you can see the 747-8 CDU.

See the route?  It's KSAN to KSTS.

I had made a flight in the NGX and this was the city pair.

So when I finished the flight I shut down P3D 4.4 and rebooted the PC.

I then loaded the 747-8 and was going to set up a route from KATL to KMCO but look what I got.

I went to the PMDG flight plan folder for the 747 and not one PFPX flight plan.  But this one was in the NGX flight plan folder.

So how in the world did the 747-8 get this NGX flight plan?

All I could do was take a flight plan I created in PFPX for the 747 and load it via COROUTE.  Then I had the route.

Thanks

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You can access any flight plan loaded in PMDG/FLIGHTPLANS folder, including those created for NGX. Introduction document page 00.00.165. Possibly it was loaded by accident. 

 

Jim Erwin 

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16 minutes ago, Jim Erwin said:

You can access any flight plan loaded in PMDG/FLIGHTPLANS folder, including those created for NGX. Introduction document page 00.00.165. Possibly it was loaded by accident. 

 

Jim Erwin 

Thanks Jim, you mean the sim loaded it by accident?  I know I didn't because as soon as I hit the route button there it was, I had just loaded the 747 not a minute before.

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In my P3D / PMDG / Flightplans  folder, I have 3 subfolders... 747, 777 and NGX.

Could it be that you saved  a NGX flightplan into the wrong subdirectory ?

 

B rdgs Dick

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6 hours ago, dick said:

In my P3D / PMDG / Flightplans  folder, I have 3 subfolders... 747, 777 and NGX.

Could it be that you saved  a NGX flightplan into the wrong subdirectory ?

 

B rdgs Dick

Hi Dick, that’s the first thing I thought of too.  The NGX plan was in the proper sub-folder and the 777 and 747 had no flightplans in them.

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7 minutes ago, Jack_Sawyer said:

Hi Dick, that’s the first thing I thought of too.  The NGX plan was in the proper sub-folder and the 777 and 747 had no flightplans in them.

What the main RTE pages was showing? With the pages you show unfortunately no conclusions can be made

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15 minutes ago, Olympic260 said:

What the main RTE pages was showing? With the pages you show unfortunately no conclusions can be made

That was the main RTE page.

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4 minutes ago, Jack_Sawyer said:

That was the main RTE page.

You mean you,loaded the plane selected the RTE and that was the page you had? 

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2 minutes ago, Olympic260 said:

You mean you,loaded the plane selected the RTE and that was the page you had? 

Yes.

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1 minute ago, Jack_Sawyer said:

Yes.

What panel state are you using to load the plane? 

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I might be wrong. 

But I don't think it makes any difference. A route is a route. Its just a series of waypoints joining a departure and arrival airport. You should in theory be able to use the same route for the 737NG, 777, 747, 

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3 minutes ago, Olympic260 said:

What panel state are you using to load the plane? 

Engines running.

This is after Kyle a couple of weeks ago told me to remove all panel states from the folder where they're stored.  So it's not an old one, it's post update.

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If that was not the route you wanted. Log into the ACARS correctly using Departure and Arrival ICAO codes Flight number You would then be presented with flight plans for that city pair :)

Andy Leigh

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2 minutes ago, andyPPL said:

If that was not the route you wanted. Log into the ACARS correctly using Departure and Arrival ICAO codes Flight number You would then be presented with flight plans for that city pair :)

Andy Leigh

Thanks Andy but the only choice I had was to load a COROUTE.  That worked.

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7 minutes ago, Jack_Sawyer said:

Engines running.

This is after Kyle a couple of weeks ago told me to remove all panel states from the folder where they're stored.  So it's not an old one, it's post update.

Go to {SIM}\PMDG\PMDG 747 folder and open the options.ini file. What do you have under the Panel state entry?

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1 minute ago, Olympic260 said:

Go to {SIM}\PMDG\PMDG 747 folder and open the options.ini file. What do you have under the Panel state entry?

Not at the PC right now, will have to do this, probably within 30 minutes.

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33 minutes ago, Olympic260 said:

Go to {SIM}\PMDG\PMDG 747 folder and open the options.ini file. What do you have under the Panel state entry?

Only one entry, Madrid after Kyle told me to delete all panel states.

It’s called, in all caps, CARGOLOGIC JACK.

It has the engines running, ready to set up the FMS.

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5 minutes ago, Jack_Sawyer said:

Only one entry, Madrid after Kyle told me to delete all panel states.

It’s called, in all caps, CARGOLOGIC JACK.

It has the engines running, ready to set up the FMS.

This is not the default one. Most probably this one has the RTE loaded that way hence why you see it.

 

Make it as follows

[Panel State]
StartupPanelState=

 

And save. This will load with the default panel state

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1 minute ago, Olympic260 said:

This is not the default one. Most probably this one has the RTE loaded that way hence why you see it.

 

Make it as follows

[Panel State]
StartupPanelState=

 

And save. This will load with the default panel state

This does not have that route saved!  I never flew CargoLogic air to that city pair.

PLEASE go to the top and read what I originally posted.

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3 minutes ago, Jack_Sawyer said:

This does not have that route saved!  I never flew CargoLogic air to that city pair.

PLEASE go to the top and read what I originally posted.

You are loading a panel state. The only way to FMC to initialize on that state it's due to the panel state.

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1 minute ago, Olympic260 said:

You are loading a panel state. The only way to FMC to initialize on that state it's due to the panel state.

In this screenshot you can see the 747-8 CDU.

See the route?  It's KSAN to KSTS.

I had made a flight in the NGX and this was the city pair.

So when I finished the flight I shut down P3D 4.4 and rebooted the PC.

I then loaded the 747-8 and was going to set up a route from KATL to KMCO but look what I got.

I went to the PMDG flight plan folder for the 747 and not one PFPX flight plan.  But this one was in the NGX flight plan folder.

So how in the world did the 747-8 get this NGX flight plan?

All I could do was take a flight plan I created in PFPX for the 747 and load it via COROUTE.  Then I had the route.

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1 minute ago, Jack_Sawyer said:

In this screenshot you can see the 747-8 CDU.

See the route?  It's KSAN to KSTS.

I had made a flight in the NGX and this was the city pair.

So when I finished the flight I shut down P3D 4.4 and rebooted the PC.

I then loaded the 747-8 and was going to set up a route from KATL to KMCO but look what I got.

I went to the PMDG flight plan folder for the 747 and not one PFPX flight plan.  But this one was in the NGX flight plan folder.

So how in the world did the 747-8 get this NGX flight plan?

All I could do was take a flight plan I created in PFPX for the 747 and load it via COROUTE.  Then I had the route.

I am telling you what can happen. Form the moment that you are using a panel state to load the plane the FMC and other plane systems will load what that panel state has in it. I can not know why and how. The best solution is to start with the default one as I described.

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2 minutes ago, Olympic260 said:

I am telling you what can happen. Form the moment that you are using a panel state to load the plane the FMC and other plane systems will load what that panel state has in it. I can not know why and how. The best solution is to start with the default one as I described.

Since Kyle had me delete the panel states and create one like he suggested I have NOT had this happen.  Not once.

So I made a flight to THIS city pair yesterday in the NGX.

THEN, I shut down P3D and THEN rebooted.

THEN ran P3D and loaded the -8.

How in the world after a reboot of the PC does it load an NXG plan into an entirely different plane, this has never once happened to me.

And I have never once flown the 747 to these city pairs, only the NGX.

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2 hours ago, Jack_Sawyer said:

only choice I had was to load a COROUTE.

Something is not quite right here. I may be wrong.

When I try to request or load a CoRoute, the FMC always redirects me to login at ACARS first. And only after first in the FMC of the 747-400/400F and now the -8i, after inputting the Departure Airport and Arrival Airport, plus the Flight No., will ACARS open up. Only then after that has been filled out, on returning to the FMC can I do a Request Send for the route, Then it shows me the PFPX-created and saved route.

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The top image doesn't show a loaded plan. It shows that you've manually browsed into the RTE REQUEST prompt.

If you saved the panel state with that page displayed, it will display that page upon re-load.

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