CaptainXG

New 38" monitor for P3d v4 // 2019 Help / Comments requested

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Dear All,

i (we) need to find a suitable monitor 38" for P3d v4! 

Ok Let´s see, how many people will join this discussion and let me share my actual stand of research.

I have ordered following Components for new P3D v4 PC:

Intel® Core™ i7-8700K, Prozessor + ASUS GeForce RTX 2080 ROG STRIX OC GAMING + ASUS ROG MAXIMUS X HERO + Noctua NH-D15 + Fractal Design Define R6 Blackout + 7 x Noctua NF-A14 PWM case coolers + G.Skill DIMM 32 GB DDR4-3200 + Samsung 970 PRO 512 GB (for win + Boot) + Samsung 860 Nano Pro (For P3D v4) + WD WD30EFRX 3 TB +  be quiet! Dark Power Pro P11 750W 

finally ready build in max approx. 1 week.

My Favorit(e) monitor(s) are:

Dell 38 Dell UltraSharp U3818DW, 37.5" (210-AMQB) round 1200 Euro (LG Panel!)

People say best sharpness for working but i have Never seen anybody recommending this monitor for P3d BUT a lot of people recommend the smaller Dell 34" monitors for P3d because of the sharpness ... hm... it is only the resolution which changes or not?

See this link --> https://www.displayspecifications.com/de/comparison/311a9afd4

It has no free sync, G Sync, Adaptive Sync, but is this really important while having round 30 FPS all the time? I think no! Why? Ok, all this only works with higher FPS and for me 30 FPS in P3D are quite good! Maybe not all settings maxed out but set to normal. -> see link below Nvidia Inspector Tweak (For 60Hz Monitors)..

 

LG 38 LG Electronics 38UC99-W, 37.5" (Cheapest LG 38") round 950 Euro

People say it is quite good for gaming BUT for working at home not the best. It has free Sync + cheaper then Dell 

LG 38 LG Electronics 38WK95C-W, 37.5" (replacement of 38UC99-W) round 1150 Euro 

 

There gives some more (HP // ACER // VIEW SONIC //..) cheaper..

see link --> https://www.heise.de/preisvergleich/?cat=monlcd19wide&xf=11939_34~11940_39~14591_38401600

 

But for me it is not only P3d v4, i also cerate some home made scenery and some other ..., so it is important for me to have also a very good monitor for normal working etc.

Question:

Can my graphic card handle a 38" monitor with 3840x1600 resolution in P3d v4 and nearly 50 % of all ORBX products +many Aerosoft airports + PMDG airplanes + Immersive Audio 737NG CFM Immersion Soundpack + Rex Sky Force 3D + Active Sky for Prepar3D v4  + FSDreamteam GSX Ground Services for FSX/P3 +++++...?????

Yes, you can test this is advance, a lot of people recommend before buying, to set the settings in Nvidia to 3840x1600 resolution and then set P3d v4 to absolut max + fire up allll your add on and fly to the newest airports wich are quite complicate like ORBX LOWI or AEROSOFT EGGL with Photoreal ORBX +++ fire Up all you can!

Ok haha.. does it still have 4 FPS? … just a joke….  :).. we don´t know.. we need to try! 

BUT now you can go back step by step and see how the FPS goes down or how they response.

What can i do to get better performance in P3d v4:

[Prepar3D] Complete Settings Guide for Prepar3D v4 --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epD8EHwBT5k

Prepar3D V4 2018 | New Ultra Smooth Performance Trick! | Nvidia Inspector Tweak (For 60Hz Monitors) --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt5iGTSlGXs

How to make P3D v4 Look AMAZING! --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNT_MOq6WM0

Others --> https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=p3d+v4+win+settings&sp=CAE%3D

Others --> https://simmershome.de/p3d-v4-einstellungen/

So this is status today, my best way to see if my graphic card GPU can handle this 38" monitor!

Asap i have my PC ready i will share my experience regarding this. approx 2 weeks .. After hardware … needs to install all the products … 😕 this will be boring and so many backups … But a the end.. 🙂

Nice greetings from Germany

Gerrit

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U will have no issues running a 38 inch with the 2080 GPU.  I have the Acer 38 inch ultra wide.  No complaints whatsoever.  Runs great at 30hz as well.  It is native 75hz.  XR382CQK

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Why a ultra-wide monitor that doesn’t give you UHD resolution in the vertical axis?

I recently bought the BenQ PD3200U 3840*2160 and the PMDG737 NGX virtual cockpit looks superb and that’s with a 1080Ti.

Edited by Ray Proudfoot

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1 hour ago, mpw8679 said:

U will have no issues running a 38 inch with the 2080 GPU.  I have the Acer 38 inch ultra wide.  No complaints whatsoever.  Runs great at 30hz as well.  It is native 75hz.  XR382CQK

Dear Matt,

thank you for input/recommendation and sharing.

Just checked again the Acer and Yes the Acer XR382CQK is really an very good alternative when going to 38".. In comparison to the Dell i see it has also 75 Hz and Free Sync on board // better input lag. 

As far see you have the i7-9700 k running OC with which GPU GTX 1080 ti -> May i ask which average FPS you get with "high / Normal" settings? Do you have ever uploaded any flight in YouTube or similar? 

Acer is round 200 Euro cheaper! 

comparison Dell U3818DW  // Acer XR382CQK  Specifications --> https://www.displayspecifications.com/de/comparison/88bd21873

Dell U3818DW VS Acer XR382CQK 2018 Review --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iA5-EO5pNs

Best 3 Widescreens LG 38UC99-W vs Dell U3818DW vs Acer XR382CQK --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBZIh9A7rSw

Acer XR382CQK 37 5 INCH Ultrawide Monitor For Gamers+Creators https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW2Wm6gtueA

Really good choice...helps and makes it difficult for me to decide... the only i see now is the stand (looking not so nice) , but i can use for that a special mounting not an big issue! 

Cheers

Gerrit

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1 hour ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Why a ultra-wide monitor that doesn’t give you UHD resolution in the vertical axis?

I recently bought the BenQ PD3200U 3840*2160 and the PMDG737 NGX virtual cockpit looks superb and that’s with a 1080Ti.

Dear Ray,

thank you also for sharing! 

Yes, your BenQ PD3200U 3840*2160 is really a nice monitor, but to say honestly i have checked so many different types of monitors and i really love this wide screen effect!! 

The BenQ PD3200U is 74 cm wide and the ACER / Dell 89 cm = 15 cm + 20 %

This decision for new PC / monitor has started for me last year in 12/2018 when my old PC has crashed and my complete EDHI Scenery was … bääääng .. Game over!  😕 --> https://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/threads/edhi-finkenwerder-in-development-by-gpx.440949/

🙂 Chees Gerrit 

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Gerrit, but the ultra-wide monitors compromise the vertical resolution. 1600 versus 2160 for UHD. That’s 35% more pixels and a considerably sharper image.  Your compromising resolution for width. Your card can easily handle the extra work. The 1600 vertical res won’t help make gauges and text easier to read. Quite the opposite.

Your call of course. Just pointing out the disadvantage of ultra-wide screen displays.

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Dear Ray,

yes 2160 is better and the BENQ screen looks nice but for me the wide screen effect is more important. 

--> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt8SvCS9Txw

LG 34UC88 21:9 3440x1440 60Hz Panel (only 34" but ...wow!)

--> https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=14&v=a0ZVKHZHshY

Monitor: LG 38" 21:9 incurved panel

This looks really amazing for me... and this on a 38" … so many people have posted you will never go back from wide screen and the Dell + Acer have an brilliant sharpness, especially the Dell as mentioned before while editing some Scenery to replace my actual 2 Samsung 24" 

In first i thought to go to two 27" screens But the Dell/Acer replaces this for me. 

 

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Gerrit, if that’s what you want then that’s fine. It’s hard to see the advantages of that sized screen when viewing on an iPad. But there’s no such thing as a wrong opinion. 😉 Enjoy your new screen.

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6 hours ago, CaptainXG said:

Dear Matt,

thank you for input/recommendation and sharing.

Just checked again the Acer and Yes the Acer XR382CQK is really an very good alternative when going to 38".. In comparison to the Dell i see it has also 75 Hz and Free Sync on board // better input lag. 

As far see you have the i7-9700 k running OC with which GPU GTX 1080 ti -> May i ask which average FPS you get with "high / Normal" settings? Do you have ever uploaded any flight in YouTube or similar? 

Acer is round 200 Euro cheaper! 

comparison Dell U3818DW  // Acer XR382CQK  Specifications --> https://www.displayspecifications.com/de/comparison/88bd21873

Dell U3818DW VS Acer XR382CQK 2018 Review --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iA5-EO5pNs

Best 3 Widescreens LG 38UC99-W vs Dell U3818DW vs Acer XR382CQK --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBZIh9A7rSw

Acer XR382CQK 37 5 INCH Ultrawide Monitor For Gamers+Creators https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW2Wm6gtueA

Really good choice...helps and makes it difficult for me to decide... the only i see now is the stand (looking not so nice) , but i can use for that a special mounting not an big issue! 

Cheers

Gerrit

I used a 1080ti with my widescreen.  No issues with performance.  The 2080 is pretty similar in performance so u will be fine.  Don’t let Ray talk u out of the widescreen.  There will be plenty of detail and I don’t see any downsides whatsoever.  U will love it.  Whatever u get make sure it is 30hz capable.

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39 minutes ago, mpw8679 said:

I used a 1080ti with my widescreen.  No issues with performance.  The 2080 is pretty similar in performance so u will be fine.  Don’t let Ray talk u out of the widescreen.  There will be plenty of detail and I don’t see any downsides whatsoever.  U will love it.  Whatever u get make sure it is 30hz capable.

Plus, the monitor Ray keeps recommending to people is spec'd out for graphics designers, so you're paying for features most simmers don't need. You don't have to spend $700 for a 4k 32" monitor...

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37 minutes ago, mpw8679 said:

 Don’t let Ray talk u out of the widescreen.  There will be plenty of detail and I don’t see any downsides whatsoever.  U will love it.  Whatever u get make sure it is 30hz capable.

Still trying to wind me up with your broken English I see. 😡 Perhaps you missed my last post... “if that’s what you want then that’s fine.”

Stop being a troublemaker Matt. 🤨

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10 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

your broken English

It's called 'The Mobile Phone Syndrome',  to olde worlde English natives like you and I, Ray😀

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18 minutes ago, Chapstick said:

Plus, the monitor Ray keeps recommending to people is spec'd out for graphics designers, so you're paying for features most simmers don't need. You don't have to spend $700 for a 4k 32" monitor...

Read my post again Alex. I didn’t recommend it in this topic. I discussed the advantages of UHD compared to 3840*1600.

I know it’s expensive but it suits me. The OP could get equally good performance from other less expensive UHD monitors. But he wants an ultra-wide display so there won’t be further input from me.

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5 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Still trying to wind me up with your broken English I see. 😡 Perhaps you missed my last post... “if that’s what you want then that’s fine.”

Stop being a troublemaker Matt. 🤨

U had two posts about some resolution hogwash clearly trying to steer him away from an ultra wide monitor.  Simming with a 38 inch ultra wide is a very immersive experience.  And once again u resort to petty insults when someone calls u out.  Have u ever simmed with a 38 inch ultra wide?  I highly doubt it as u resort to pointless monitor specs to solidify your point.  

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4 hours ago, mpw8679 said:

U had two posts about some resolution hogwash clearly trying to steer him away from an ultra wide monitor.  Simming with a 38 inch ultra wide is a very immersive experience.  And once again u resort to petty insults when someone calls u out.  Have u ever simmed with a 38 inch ultra wide?  I highly doubt it as u resort to pointless monitor specs to solidify your point.  

Hogwash? Oh dear? I simply pointed out 2160 vertical pixels would make things look sharper than 1600. That's a fact, not hogwash.

Petty insults? Not really. Just pointing out that typing you is two more letters than u and makes a lot more sense to non-English speakers.

No, never had the desire to use an ultra-wide display and I'm not criticising anyone who wants to use one. I was simply pointing out the pixels in the vertical resolution are closer to QHD than UHD.

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On a different tack, Ray, can I solicit your advice on something like your BENQ but not as expensive or not as huge as that as I do not have the writing desk space where my current 24-in Dell UltraSharp U2412M sits?

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4 minutes ago, vc10man said:

On a different tack, Ray, can I solicit your advice on something like your BENQ but not as expensive or not as huge as that as I do not have the writing desk space where my current 24-in Dell UltraSharp U2412M sits?

I saw a Samsung 28" UHD at a recent flight sim meeting. Around £330 in the UK. Image was very impressive.

https://www.samsung.com/uk/monitors/uhd-ue590/LU28E590DSEN/

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Thanks for that Ray. Looks really cool, and more to the point, affordable to me. Appreciate that. If it makes my PMDG 737NGX or FSL A319/320 cockpits look good, I am up for it.

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Rick, It will be even sharper than my 32" as the same number of pixels are packed into a smaller area. Check independent reviews rather than those on Amazon.

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Thanks Ray. I never ever check any reviews from Amazon, but will read elsewhere.

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One last question, Ray, as I have not yet opened my MSI GTX1080Ti, does it have an HDMI port to link to that Samsung's HDMI port? I am told that HDMI is tons better than DV-I as on my current EVGA GTX970 via DV-I to VGA adaptor to the Dell?

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2 minutes ago, vc10man said:

One last question, Ray, as I have not yet opened my MSI GTX1080Ti, does it have an HDMI port to link to that Samsung's HDMI port? I am told that HDMI is tons better than DV-I as on my current EVGA GTX970 via DV-I to VGA adaptor to the Dell?

It does but I use Display Port. DVI can't support UHD.

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3 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

It does but I use Display Port. DVI can't support UHD.

That, re:DV-I, I was told. As you are the 'guru' on these matters, AFAIC, does that 108Ti have a Display Port or HDMI port to use with this Samsung? I'll be getting rid of the two EVGA GTX970s I have.

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