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I don't want to start an XP vs. P3D fight, but if you saw their presentation at the expo, Laminar's roadmap is so much more interesting than LM's, which is... do they even have one?

I'm an FSL customer. I bought the A320 before the malware scandal broke. Just getting that out of the way so that you know where I'm coming from. I agree - voting with your wallet is the most straightforward solution. But we need to be able to discuss the ethics of companies' business practices so we can choose what products to buy. And not just for flight sim add-ons, but literally everything in life that we have to buy. That's why this is a topic worthy of discussion. You could make this statement about the entirety of this hobby we all enjoy. I could tell you to go volunteer at a soup kitchen because it adds more value to society than sitting in front of a computer pretending to be a pilot. But I'm not going to tell you that because that's unrealistic and silly. Just as it's unrealistic to run a flight sim community and expect everyone to move on and shut up when a developer screws up... or starts threatening the community with libel suits.

Don’t know why people still think they’re announcing an aircraft. Taking RR’s words literally, there’s no reason to think that’s the case. Alex Pugh

I had it installed perfectly. QW has acknowledged the issues with 1806 and are working with Navigraph on it. You may not have run into the same issues yet.

I found that a few of the issues I ran into were fixed by using the 1706 AIRAC that came with the 787. The latest AIRAC, 1806 from Navigraph, is not working properly yet with the 787.

Glad to hear you're enjoying it. Maybe at some point I can as well.

I laughed out loud at this... "it must be the goggles!" This is a seriously flawed product and people who aren't experiencing issues are either in denial or extremely lucky. This is the buggiest and most incomplete add-on I've bought in a long time.

I went ahead and bought it since they gave a timeline for updates. Since most of the issues have been documented by other people, I'll just say this... it feels like an early access product. I've run into so many issues that I'm just going to wait for the hot fixes then decide whether to get a refund.

That would be a spectacular breakthrough in time travel if they have been working on XP11 products since 2008... alex Pugh

They donate for the same reasons you donate to AVSIM (going off your donor tag). It's not terribly different. A community often forms around a streamer and they want to support it. I'm glad there are streamers, because now I know I can hold off on buying QW's product until we see some fixes. That's what turns me off the most -- not just usual post-release bugs, but bugs that are 8 or 9 months old. Shouldn't the teething issues be gone by now?

Best way I can describe it... the T/D point was displayed where you'd expect but all of the subsequent way points maintained the cruise altitude (FL400) until the first way point with a hard altitude restriction. Apparently this was bug in the FSX version as well.

Watching Chewwy's stream, there's a pretty game-breaking bug with VNAV not populating the altitude fields correctly. This might be worth buying after a patch or two.

But how does VNAV accurately manage descents if it doesn’t have wind forecasts? Alex

So far we know it doesn’t have step climbs or wind forecasts. What else is missing? Curious to know exactly how “lite” this is before I buy. Alex

So it sounds like only LM can fix this issue if it’s some glitch in the scenery that has to be identified. Honestly, I doubt this will ever get fixed. They haven’t even patched the blatant and atrocious SimConnect window bug months after they broke it in the first place.