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LCD vs OLED during evening/night/morning flights?

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Hi,

I have a Pimax 5K+ .... and it kinda sucks. Great FOV - but that is it. The colors and blacklevels are horrendous! During evening/night flights I am sourrounded by this grey soup....and it is really annoying, and I will never "get used to it" or "adapt"

 

So, the problem is that only the O+ and Vive Pro has OLED screens, the rest are LCD (like my Pimax 5K+). The new HP reverb has insane resolution...but is still a LCD. When I think about it I need a OLED display with Samsung O+ anti screendoor filter at reverb resolutions.....don't we all!

 

What are you guys thinking? Would you go for higher resolution LCD or lower resolution OLED?

Edited by Thac

While not reaching Oled black levels, I find my new Rift S very acceptable. (Except for tha' yucky sound!)

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On 7/3/2019 at 10:41 PM, Thac said:

Hi,

I have a Pimax 5K+ .... and it kinda sucks. Great FOV - but that is it. The colors and blacklevels are horrendous! During evening/night flights I am sourrounded by this grey soup....and it is really annoying, and I will never "get used to it" or "adapt"

 

So, the problem is that only the O+ and Vive Pro has OLED screens, the rest are LCD (like my Pimax 5K+). The new HP reverb has insane resolution...but is still a LCD. When I think about it I need a OLED display with Samsung O+ anti screendoor filter at reverb resolutions.....don't we all!

 

What are you guys thinking? Would you go for higher resolution LCD or lower resolution OLED?

There is a Pimax 5K XR OLED available now. Can you exchange yours for it?

I am seriously considering.

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7 hours ago, glider1 said:

There is a Pimax 5K XR OLED available now. Can you exchange yours for it?

I am seriously considering.

The Pimax XR OLED has the worst SDE of all HMD's - not recommended. Actually, I don't recommend Pimax at all. The ONLY nice thing about the Pimax is the FOV. Don't buy a Pimax. 

It seems we need to choose between crisp resolution or crisp colors/black level. The only three HMD's with pure blacks are the OLED HMD's. And in my world those are O+, Vive and Vive Pro (and for me, I think I would prefer the O+ for the A-SDE and price). The the new LCD HMD's (Valve Index, Rift S and HP Reverb) just don't have pure blacks/colors. And for me THAT is the most important. I love flying in the dusk/night.

I suspect and hope Samsung will soon(TM) release a new version of the O+ with better comfort and higher resolution while still using AMOLED screens with their A-SDE tech 🙂 

Edited by Thac

With the Rift S only pitch black night flights are a bit bright. Dusk/Dawn is fine.

 

 

17 hours ago, Thac said:

The Pimax XR OLED has the worst SDE of all HMD's - not recommended. Actually, I don't recommend Pimax at all. The ONLY nice thing about the Pimax is the FOV. Don't buy a Pimax. 

It seems we need to choose between crisp resolution or crisp colors/black level. The only three HMD's with pure blacks are the OLED HMD's. And in my world those are O+, Vive and Vive Pro (and for me, I think I would prefer the O+ for the A-SDE and price). The the new LCD HMD's (Valve Index, Rift S and HP Reverb) just don't have pure blacks/colors. And for me THAT is the most important. I love flying in the dusk/night.

I suspect and hope Samsung will soon(TM) release a new version of the O+ with better comfort and higher resolution while still using AMOLED screens with their A-SDE tech 🙂 

Thanks for the warning on SDE. What was the performance like for you on the Pimax in P3D? Were you able to use the wide FOV without stutters?

I had a pimax 4k a few years back and enjoyed good close up clarity & no SDE. Then I got the 5K+ and was not satisfied. Noticeable SDE, close up clarity was worse however colours were better along with the clarity in the distance. Night lighting was ok after a few adjustments but the SDE caused lights & stars to look like small blobs.

Ive since purchased the 8k and find it much better and the stars are not like small blobs in the sky. However i see more SDE than I did in the 4k unit.

Im running it at 64hz and find performance is great.

I use normal FOV because with wide I see texture artifacts just in the corner of my right eye. Not sure why.

28 minutes ago, Iceman2 said:

I had a pimax 4k a few years back and enjoyed good close up clarity & no SDE. Then I got the 5K+ and was not satisfied. Noticeable SDE, close up clarity was worse however colours were better along with the clarity in the distance. Night lighting was ok after a few adjustments but the SDE caused lights & stars to look like small blobs.

Ive since purchased the 8k and find it much better and the stars are not like small blobs in the sky. However i see more SDE than I did in the 4k unit.

Im running it at 64hz and find performance is great.

I use normal FOV because with wide I see texture artifacts just in the corner of my right eye. Not sure why.

Thanks iceman. How wide is normal then?

I think Pimax cops unfair criticism about SDE because people can't have both no SDE and wide FOV. There will be a tradeoff for more SDE if the FOV is the widest on the market.

Cheers

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