September 27, 20196 yr Author Can you guys also please recommend ddr4 3600mhz men for about 150 Canadian cheers mike
September 27, 20196 yr If you use Gigabyte MB check out the report a flaw in the RGB Fusion software on TomsHardware. Raymond Fry.
September 29, 20196 yr Author On 9/27/2019 at 6:47 PM, rjfry said: If you use Gigabyte MB check out the report a flaw in the RGB Fusion software on TomsHardware. Thanks for the info, to be honest I don’t like this rgb bs on boards etc etc and they ramp ramp up the price cause of that
October 6, 20196 yr Author So I bought the meg ace msi Z390 board used for 200 Canadian is it a good board? For the i9? Thanks mike
October 7, 20196 yr On 10/6/2019 at 8:07 AM, mikeymike said: So I bought the meg ace msi Z390 board used for 200 Canadian is it a good board? For the i9? Thanks mike I haven't used MSI for a long time, too many bad experiences between myself and other enthusiasts I know. That being said, they are pretty popular, and review well.
October 8, 20196 yr Author 11 hours ago, TechguyMaxC said: I haven't used MSI for a long time, too many bad experiences between myself and other enthusiasts I know. That being said, they are pretty popular, and review well. Well I took it back lol and got a gigabyte AORUS Z390 master
October 8, 20196 yr 18 hours ago, mikeymike said: Well I took it back lol and got a gigabyte AORUS Z390 master Good move. It shouldn't be a huge price difference and the Z390 Master is literally one of the best Z390 boards you can buy.
October 8, 20196 yr Author 22 minutes ago, TechguyMaxC said: Good move. It shouldn't be a huge price difference and the Z390 Master is literally one of the best Z390 boards you can buy. Thanks for the reply I just 2 x16gb Corsair vengeance LPX black 3200mhz cl 16 18 18 36 is that good?
October 8, 20196 yr For 32GB it’s acceptable, though usually you want to pick either high bandwidth or low latency, that Kit doesn’t particularly excel in either category. 3600 C18 RAM will deliver the same latency but higher bandwidth.
October 9, 20196 yr Author 5 hours ago, TechguyMaxC said: For 32GB it’s acceptable, though usually you want to pick either high bandwidth or low latency, that Kit doesn’t particularly excel in either category. 3600 C18 RAM will deliver the same latency but higher bandwidth. Thanks for the reply, Meh the ram is actually running really well, and at xmp profile worth every penny for 199 bucks form 3200 to 3600 MHz cl14 to 16 you’ll never no the difference. its all marketing
October 9, 20196 yr 8 hours ago, mikeymike said: Thanks for the reply, Meh the ram is actually running really well, and at xmp profile worth every penny for 199 bucks form 3200 to 3600 MHz cl14 to 16 you’ll never no the difference. its all marketing Funny you should say that as I happen to have done extensive testing on this subject, though with DDR3 rather than DDR4 so my data is quite out of date. I know @westman has also done pretty extensive testing on the subject more recently than I, perhaps he'll chime in. Additionally, virtuali has offered his findings on the subject just this morning in fact! You can see that there is DEFINITELY a speedup IN FLIGHT SIM when using fast RAM. The axiom "fast RAM is a placebo" doesn't apply here (and I dispute its validity to begin with). Edited October 9, 20196 yr by TechguyMaxC
October 9, 20196 yr Author 1 hour ago, TechguyMaxC said: Funny you should say that as I happen to have done extensive testing on this subject, though with DDR3 rather than DDR4 so my data is quite out of date. I know @westman has also done pretty extensive testing on the subject more recently than I, perhaps he'll chime in. Additionally, virtuali has offered his findings on the subject just this morning in fact! You can see that there is DEFINITELY a speedup IN FLIGHT SIM when using fast RAM. The axiom "fast RAM is a placebo" doesn't apply here (and I dispute its validity to begin with). Yes, but that it is a significant jump from 2133 to 3000 and yet again yielding a very very small improvement. I have been going a banana’s and researching , getting opinions a lot on what ram to get. and I’ve come to the conclusion that higher MHz and very tight timings for ram. in my opinion your just better off just burning your cash.
October 9, 20196 yr Just now, mikeymike said: Yes, but that it is a significant jump from 2133 to 3000 and yet again yielding a very very small improvement. I have been going a banana’s and researching , getting opinions a lot on what ram to get. and I’ve come to the conclusion that higher MHz and very tight timings for ram. in my opinion your just better off just burning your cash. You may want to read the post again more carefully. The first test results were actually performed at only 2400. He re-tested at 3000 and saw even better results. No one is saying "spend $500 on RAM because it will double your FPS in flight sim!", all I'm saying is that you can get better performance with faster RAM. Of course there is a point of diminishing returns. Personally, I find the sweet spot around 3600MHZ RAM speed, preferrably with low timings.
October 9, 20196 yr Commercial Member 33 minutes ago, mikeymike said: Yes, but that it is a significant jump from 2133 to 3000 and yet again yielding a very very small improvement. "very very small" ? In the worse case scenario ( PMDG VC ), I went from 14.9 to 17.9, which is a 20% increase and it was probably the most noticeable, visually. Yes, the increase is not linear, going from 2133 to 2400 got better results than going from 2400 to 3000 but, it could possibly depend on my CPU ( i7-6700 ), which is old by today's standard, so it's likely that faster CPUs might benefit more from chips faster than DDR4-3000. Edited October 9, 20196 yr by virtuali Umberto Colapicchioni http://www.fsdreamteam.com FSDT on Facebook
October 9, 20196 yr Author 21 minutes ago, virtuali said: "very very small" ? In the worse case scenario ( PMDG VC ), I went from 14.9 to 17.9, which is a 20% increase and it was probably the most noticeable, visually. Yes, the increase is not linear, going from 2133 to 2400 got better results than going from 2400 to 3000 but, it could possibly depend on my CPU ( i7-6700 ), which is old by today's standard, so it's likely that faster CPUs might benefit more from chips faster than DDR4-3000. No you got me thinking wether I should take back my Corsair vengeance LPX 16x 2 gb 3200mhz at cl16 and getting 3600mhz 2x8gb cl16 but ide like the 32gb for future proofing as I will have my i9 for at least 7 years but sadly can’t afford it for 3600mhz it’s Edited October 9, 20196 yr by mikeymike
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