Hi,

I have a problem with LFLJ Courchevel, it is missing in the RC4 database.
I have carefully read the instructions for MakeRwys.
I have the latest versions of FSUIPC, RC4, LorbySceneryExport and MakeRwys.
The problem seems to come from the fact that I have LFLJ in Runways.xml and Runways.txt but it is not "transferred" in Runways.csv nor in R4.csv and therefore, consequently, the airport is not transferred in the RC4 files.

Why is LFLJ not in Runways.csv or runways.xml? Can we solve this?

Thank you and Regards,

Richard

Edited October 22, 20196 yr by DrumsArt

Strange, because I have it in my r4 file. Are you sure you have updated RC4 from the interface? (Rebuild scenery DB).

Here is the entry:   LFLJ,0050,45.399975,6.622049,6418,50.000,1756,0,131,-1.000,45.401554,6.624638,0,,

You can copy and paste to the r4 file but only use Notepad or Norepad ++ not Excel.

Edited October 22, 20196 yr by IanHarrison

3 hours ago, IanHarrison said:

Strange, because I have it in my r4 file. Are you sure you have updated RC4 from the interface? (Rebuild scenery DB).

Here is the entry:   LFLJ,0050,45.399975,6.622049,6418,50.000,1756,0,131,-1.000,45.401554,6.624638,0,,

You can copy and paste to the r4 file but only use Notepad or Norepad ++ not Excel.

Thank you Ian. Yes I updated from the RC4 interface (Rebuild....). As I wrote in my previous post, the problem seems to come from upstream in the P3Dv4.5 folder...

When copying the coordinates of LFLJ should I take into account the alphabetical order or does it not matter?

I would like to understand where the problem comes from because I suppose there is a chance that LFLJ is not the only one involved.

EDIT: I copied the coordinates you gave me. It doesn't work, when I launch RC4, my aircraft is in the middle of nowhere, which is a sign that RC4 doesn't recognize LFLJ...

Richard

 

Edited October 22, 20196 yr by DrumsArt

@DrumsArt, please state the version numbers of MakeRunways and FSUIPC5. If Ian has the entry and you don't it's likely to be because you don't have the same files used to generate the data.

7 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

@DrumsArt, please state the version numbers of MakeRunways and FSUIPC5. If Ian has the entry and you don't it's likely to be because you don't have the same files used to generate the data.

Hi Ray,

FSUIPC v5.1.5.2

MakeRwys.exe v4.8.7.3

RC4 v4.3.3845

All programs as an administrator...

EDIT: I was finally able to make it work. I had first copied the coordinates into the r4 located in D:\Program Files (x86)\rcv4x\data.
Seeing that it didn't work, I modified the r4 located in E:\Program Files\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4, then I restarted the RC4 rebuild database. This time the airport was recognized.

However, I have a problem in the first part of the process that is not related to RC4, as I mentioned in my first post:

" The problem seems to come from the fact that I have LFLJ in Runways.xml and Runways.txt but it is not "transferred" in Runways.csv nor in R4.csv contained in the P3D folder and therefore, consequently, the airport is not transferred in the RC4 files."

Richard

Edited October 23, 20196 yr by DrumsArt

Richard, you have the latest versions, good. Is RC4 on the same PC as P3D? If so I suspect it may be related to P3D and RC4 being located under Program Files. Can you copy the file manually?

Its best to install those away from protected areas like Program Files.

 

3 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Richard, you have the latest versions, good. Is RC4 on the same PC as P3D? If so I suspect it may be related to P3D and RC4 being located under Program Files. Can you copy the file manually?

Its best to install those away from protected areas like Program Files.

 

Ray, I just edited my post, have you read it?

Richard

3 minutes ago, DrumsArt said:

Ray, I just edited my post, have you read it?

Richard

Hi Richard. Sorry, I just saw Program Files and didn’t check the drive letter. So protection should not be an issue.

But if LFLJ exists in P3D then MakeRunways should find it. It sounds like it isn’t being created in r4.csv. I’ve turned off my PC but will check mine tomorrow.

4 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Hi Richard. Sorry, I just saw Program Files and didn’t check the drive letter. So protection should not be an issue.

But if LFLJ exists in P3D then MakeRunways should find it. It sounds like it isn’t being created in r4.csv. I’ve turned off my PC but will check mine tomorrow.

Thank a lot Ray, the problem is that MakeRunways finds it (in Runways.xml and Runways.txt) but does not transfer it in Runways.csv nor in R4.csv contained in the P3D folder.

Richard

Hi Richard,

I've just checked mine and it's present in P3D r4.csv and also in r4.csv in RC4\data folder.

Strange because it's a default airport and is located in Scenery\0601\scenery\APX49150.bgl

Check you have that file.

LATER: Just spotted this...

"Runway 5 /23  centre: N45:24:05.5970  E006:37:28.6962  6418ft
              Runway 23  closed for landing and take-off"

If there's no runway to use that may be why it doesn't get transferred.

LATER STILL: Only 05 is open so it should be listed in r4.csv.

Edited October 23, 20196 yr by Ray Proudfoot

2 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Hi Richard,

I've just checked mine and it's present in P3D r4.csv and also in r4.csv in RC4\data folder.

Strange because it's a default airport and is located in Scenery\0601\scenery\APX49150.bgl

Check you have that file.

Hi Ray,

Yes, I have it...

I would like to point out that I also own a paid version of LLH Creations located in E:\Program Files\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\Addon Scenery\LFLJ - Courchevel LLH5\Scenery. I don't see why that would be a problem, unless...?

Richard

Richard, that is almost certainly the problem. Always best to mention if you have 3rd party scenery.

How many entries for LFLJ do you have in runways.txt. I have 3 - all related to the default. You should have more but if you don’t then that the reason it’s missing.

How is that scenery installed? Scenery Library or Add-on.xml? Is it listed in Lorby’s Addon Organizer?

6 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Richard, that is almost certainly the problem. Always best to mention if you have 3rd party scenery.

How many entries for LFLJ do you have in runways.txt. I have 3 - all related to the default. You should have more but if you don’t then that the reason it’s missing.

How is that scenery installed? Scenery Library or Add-on.xml? Is it listed in Lorby’s Addon Organizer?

Ray, I have this one:

Airport LFLJ :N45:23:53.9998  E006:37:37.7999  6418ft
          Country Name="France"
          State Name=""
          City Name="Courchevel"
          Airport Name="Courchevel"
          in file: Scenery\0601\scenery\APX49150.bgl

..........Here are several lines with the "Taxipaths" and so......

FSM A/P LFLJ, lat=45.398335, long=6.627167, alt=6418

Then this one (3rd party scenery):

Area.326 "LFLJ - Courchevel LLH5" (Layer=326)
Path(Local/Remote)=E:\Program Files\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\Addon Scenery\LFLJ - Courchevel LLH5
=========
E:\Program Files\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\Addon Scenery\LFLJ - Courchevel LLH5\scenery\lj_apt.bgl

Airport LFLJ :N45:23:45.9660  E006:37:58.9691  6586ft
          Country Name="France"
          State Name=""
          City Name="Courchevel"
          Airport Name="Courchevel"
          in file: E:\Program Files\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\Addon Scenery\LFLJ - Courchevel LLH5\scenery\lj_apt.bgl

..........Here are several lines with runway, helipad...com and so.......

FSM A/P LFLJ, lat=45.396107, long=6.633047, alt=6586

-The installation is automatic, I think it's Scenery Library.

-Yes, it's listed in Lorby’s Addon Organizer.

It is to be noted that I also have 3 other altiports from the same developer (LLH Creations), LFHM, LFHU and LFKX (btw, great sceneries ;-), all installed on the same model and of course recognized by MakeRunways but not transmitted in Runways.csv and r4.csv as LFLJ. Strange...

Richard

 

 

 

 

Edited October 23, 20196 yr by DrumsArt

Richard, I think this is something you're going to have to take up with Pete / John Dowson on their forum as it appears not to be a RC problem.

You say you think it's in Scenery Library. Confirmation is best.

9 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Richard, I think this is something you're going to have to take up with Pete / John Dowson on their forum as it appears not to be a RC problem.

You say you think it's in Scenery Library. Confirmation is best.

Ray, about the fact that this is clearly not a RC4-related problem, that's what I thought too, I'll take your advice.

Yes, I confirm it's Scenery Library, I also confirm that when I answered, I had a doubtI

Anyway thank you for your time and help.

If I haven't already said it, RC4 is for me the best of all ATCs (rigour, simplicity, very rarely caught in error...). Believe me, I have 3 other ATC programs and frankly....
RC4 + MCE is the ideal tandem, I use it almost every day.

Regards,

Richard

Edited October 24, 20196 yr by DrumsArt