Difficult to make new aircrafts

[HughesMDflyer4 470]

3 minutes ago, FDEdev said:

We have seen the spin video, which isn't exactly promising.

Weird, a friend of mine who is an aerospace engineer thought that video looked pretty good.

[FDEdev 955]

Weird indeed since I've never seen an aircraft spin, or spun an aircraft myself, in an aerodynamically impossible attitude like in the video.

That's the kind of unrealistic spin attitude you see in many FSX/P3D add-ons.

Edited October 27, 2019 by FDEdev

[suncoastflyer 685]

7 minutes ago, FDEdev said:

Weird indeed since I've never seen an aircraft spin, or spun an aircraft myself, in an aerodynamically impossible attitude like in the video.

That's the kind of unrealistic spin attitude you see in many FSX/P3D add-ons.

Care to point out the differences in attitude during the spin here? Genuinely curious because they look pretty similar to me (comparing to the insider video). Different aircraft will spin differently too of course.

[b737800 470]

The passenger in the FS video didn't call out "**** me".

Edited October 27, 2019 by b737800

[FDEdev 955]

2 hours ago, suncoastflyer said:

Care to point out the differences in attitude during the spin here? 

Sure. Btw, that's a very good video since it's one of the few videos where you can see the horizon

Notice that the roll attitude is almost level, just a few degrees 'in spin' bank angle due to the outboard, faster rotating wing (just a basic description). 

In the MSFS video the stable spin attitude has the 172 banking 40° to the outside of the spin, which is simply impossible in a conventional stable spin.

https://files.fm/u/s4j4cqx5#/view/msfs_spin_att.jpg

 

Edited October 27, 2019 by FDEdev

[b737800 470]

10 minutes ago, FDEdev said:

Sure. Btw, that's a very good video since it's one of the few videos where you can see the horizon

Notice that the roll attitude is almost level, just a few degrees 'in spin' bank angle due to the outboard, faster rotating wing (just a basic description). 

In the MSFS video the stable spin attitude has the 172 banking 40° to the outside of the spin, which is simply impossible in a conventional stable spin.

edit: just trying to get the uploaded jpg to show, working on it.

 

Same video at approx 17 seconds mark:

 

45 degrees. I'm also confused.

[FDEdev 955]

4 minutes ago, b737800 said:

Same video at approx 17 seconds mark:  45 degrees. I'm also confused.

Erm, that's the opposite, correct, in or pro spin bank angle.

Edited October 27, 2019 by FDEdev

[b737800 470]

21 minutes ago, FDEdev said:

Erm, that's the opposite, correct, in or pro spin bank angle.

I think it's time for me to restart my flying lessons.

[FDEdev 955]

No need to. Just look at the screenshot in the link I've posted.

[suncoastflyer 685]

3 hours ago, FDEdev said:

Sure. Btw, that's a very good video since it's one of the few videos where you can see the horizon

Notice that the roll attitude is almost level, just a few degrees 'in spin' bank angle due to the outboard, faster rotating wing (just a basic description). 

In the MSFS video the stable spin attitude has the 172 banking 40° to the outside of the spin, which is simply impossible in a conventional stable spin.

https://files.fm/u/s4j4cqx5#/view/msfs_spin_att.jpg

 

Ah, I see it now. If the bank was corrected it wouldn't be too bad at all then. Hopefully it's just 'alpha things' what we're seeing right now.

[JB3DG 225]

Quoting myself from the PMDG forums:

To us developers in the know, it is an endless source of comedy to watch the Betians at war with Tabletians, while the Fluidians try to win disciples from both to their more complex theories..

Edited October 28, 2019 by JB3DG