Ok, with all the talk about frame-rate and graphics (which is completley understandable) I thought I would shift the conversation in a little different direction for this one post. First let me tell you that I am going back to fs9 with add-ons until I can enjoy FSX. FSX is going to be great there is no question in that but just not yet. Anyways, on to my question...Now, I am not a real life pilot and I have only been in a single engine plane twice in my life. Flew from New Haven to Albany and New Haven to Block Island in which I had the priveledge to take the controls of the aircraft which was awesome. I know many of you here are real life pilots and I would love your opinion on the flight physics for FS9/FSX compared to real life. The one thing I notice that I could very well be wrong in is that it seems like when landing the plane is moving too slow. This makes landing very easy. Now this is just with small aircrafts mainly the Beachcraft Baron. It seems to me that when comparing real life video with shots of FS in action landing just is too slow and easy with FS. I just wanted to know your opinions on this?? Real life pilots or anybody in general. It definetley seems a little too easy to actually land the plane even with realism settings fully maxed.

I only fly the Baron-but I find it much better compared to the real aircraft.One of the biggest improvements in fsx is the landing phase-I couldn't never land a plane realistically in fs9-in fsx everything is just more "on".As far as the speed-next time you are going down the freeway-look to the side briefly and notice how fast you seem to be going-then look directly ahead and see that the sensation is much less. If you are driving 70 -80 and on a highway about the width of a runway you will be getting about the same sensation of landing a typical Ga aircraft.http://mywebpages.comcast.net/geofa/pages/rxp-pilot.jpg

You are a #### good pilot if the world looks slow to you when landing. If the world looks like floating in a bowl of water its best to go around.

Please explain. Are you a pilot?I didn't say it looked "slow"-I said it looked right.Hey Dave-here are a couple videos my copilot took of me landing in a Baron-see for yourself how it compares.http://www.bolt.com/geofa/video/233624http://www.bolt.com/geofa/video/233668http://mywebpages.comcast.net/geofa/pages/rxp-pilot.jpg

>Please explain. Are you a pilot?>>I didn't say it looked "slow"-I said it looked right.>>Hey Dave-here are a couple videos my copilot took of me>landing in a Baron-see for yourself how it compares.>http://www.bolt.com/geofa/video/233624>http://www.bolt.com/geofa/video/233668>>>http://mywebpages.comcast.net/geofa/pages/rxp-pilot.jpgNice video but still in FS it still seems too slow. I can stop in no time. When looking to the side on replays it looks right but the lines in the runway are going slow and that's the best way to judge. (unless the lines in the runway are extra long in FS lol)

That would depend on what your are flying.The initial approach speeed on my Baron is 110 kts. slowing to 100-90 on short final before the power is pulled.If you are flying a Cessna you would be 65-70-hence much slower.Did you compare the Baron in fsx to the video? Are you flying it with the correct speeds?By the way-when I have time-I hang out in the flight training section of multiplayer. Anyone who wants a lesson-if I'm available lets go flying! :-)http://mywebpages.comcast.net/geofa/pages/rxp-pilot.jpg

Is that your plane? I want my own Baron, holy moly. Anyway, to the topic at hand, (only PPL here, with a few endorsements), I can only say that I think the flight dynamics have been improved in FSX.Jeff

I've landed a few times in the Cessna 172 and 152 and looking out the front which you tend to do on landing and it seems very slow. Considering my instructor tends to stall on landing to prevent gear wear I guess thankfully we couldn't go much slower, but it's all about perception and the relative size of things.Ian.

I own a third of it with two partners.http://mywebpages.comcast.net/geofa/pages/rxp-pilot.jpg

Yeah-wouldn't you be close to about 45 knts at that point going by memory?http://mywebpages.comcast.net/geofa/pages/rxp-pilot.jpg

Yes, around there 45-50. If the stall light and horn weren't on when we landed he considered it a bad landing. Ian.

As with FS9, just zoom back in the VC view. The speed is there. The limitation is nothing to do with FS, whether X or 2004, it's to do with the limited peripheral view from the standard single-monitor setup.Use three monitors and the sense of speed is palpable.As with all these things the solution involves spending money!Allcott

Here's why I kinda agree with you....When flying a real plane (I'm a PPL, fly Piper Warriors), you are managing more "things" while landing, especially if its an instrument approach (you can't see the ground anyway if imc hehe). You are doing your final windchecks, correcting for crosswind if applicable, doing your BCGUMP (mixture, fuel pump, gear down etc etc), so the final descent and landing seem to go by so fast (not to mention you LOVE flying and it always ends too fast hehe).In FS9, or FSX (don't have it yet myself), you can't really do that....well I guess you can do your final checks but you aren't really concerned that if you mess up you might kill yourself. So the time seems to go by slower, at least for me. I was flying into phx deer valley lasyt night in the DF A36 and it took FOREVER to cross the road near 25L and it was only like a 3mi base to final. about 100 kts i was flying the approach...That's what I think. FS depicts landing an aicraft (GA at least), easier than real life, and the landing phase "seems" to take longer than in real life.

Alcott's right. It's like trying to fly (or drive) while wearing one of those cones the vet puts on your dog to keep him from biting himself. Without the peripheral vision you loose the sense of speed. I had a chance to fly a level-D 767 sim with something like a 200 degree field of view. The sense of speed on the very edge of my vision made a big difference.

Not to mention the fact that in a real aircraft if you mess up there are real consequenecs. That *always* increased my focus! ;)