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gns 430 navigraph

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hi guys,

Trying out x plane 11 and noticed my navi data is out, but i cannot seem to find the gns 430 update in the folders. its stops at x plane 11 native or so.

ive tried downloading it of the website but the link just freezes upon clicking download. im trying to update my ff 757 btw.

 

this is the list as i scroll down after downloading them can i use any of these instead in the GNS folder?

 

xplane11_native_1911

xplane10_native_1911

xplane_customdata_native_1911

x-fmc_native_1911

worldtraffic_native_1911

 

many thanks.

I7 10700K 16GB 3600MHZ RTX3080FE

If I understand you correctly you are asking about a Navigraph update for the GNS 430?

If so, this is not possible, the nav data is owned by Garmin.

David Porrett

13 minutes ago, DavidP said:

If I understand you correctly you are asking about a Navigraph update for the GNS 430?

If so, this is not possible, the nav data is owned by Garmin.

Absolutely incorrect. The GNS430 is fully updatable with Navigraph. 
 

https://www.navigraph.com/FmsDataManualInstall.aspx
 

X-Plane GNS430, FF757/767/777, X-Crafts Embraer E-175, Aerobask SkyView, JRollon Planes CRJ200, JARDesign A320/A330, ToLiss A319 (XP10), STMA Aircraft, Magknight 787AE - native**

39 minutes ago, Bilal2104 said:

hi guys,

Trying out x plane 11 and noticed my navi data is out, but i cannot seem to find the gns 430 update in the folders. its stops at x plane 11 native or so.

ive tried downloading it of the website but the link just freezes upon clicking download. im trying to update my ff 757 btw.

 

this is the list as i scroll down after downloading them can i use any of these instead in the GNS folder?

 

xplane11_native_1911

xplane10_native_1911

xplane_customdata_native_1911

x-fmc_native_1911

worldtraffic_native_1911

 

many thanks.

The 1911 is an old cycle. You should not be seeing that cycle on the web site or in the data manager. The current one is 2006. On the Navigraph website (or in the data manger), the download you want is marked “X-Plane GNS430, FF757/767/777... (followed by a long list of other XP aircraft that use the same format). On the Navigraph manual download page under “products” it is at the very end of the list of downloadable databases.

You do understand that the Navigraph downloads are not free? You have to have a subscription (minimum one month), and be logged into your account to actually download the databases.

Jim Barrett

Licensed Airframe & Powerplant Mechanic, Avionics, Electrical & Air Data Systems Specialist. Qualified on: Falcon 900, CRJ-200, Dornier 328-100, Hawker 850XP and 1000, Lear 35, 45, 55 and 60, Gulfstream IV and 550, Embraer 135, Beech Premiere and 400A, MD-80.

3 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

Absolutely incorrect. The GNS430 is fully updatable with Navigraph. 
 

https://www.navigraph.com/FmsDataManualInstall.aspx
 

X-Plane GNS430, FF757/767/777, X-Crafts Embraer E-175, Aerobask SkyView, JRollon Planes CRJ200, JARDesign A320/A330, ToLiss A319 (XP10), STMA Aircraft, Magknight 787AE - native**

The X-Plane native GNS 430 is an emulation of the Garmin unit created by Laminar. It has the “look and feel” of the real unit, but is not based on the real GNS. As you said, it can be updated.

The RealityXP and Flight1 GNS-430 add-ons use the trainer software created by Garmin. I think that was what DavidP was referring to. Those units can definitely not be updated by anyone other than Garmin.

 

Jim Barrett

Licensed Airframe & Powerplant Mechanic, Avionics, Electrical & Air Data Systems Specialist. Qualified on: Falcon 900, CRJ-200, Dornier 328-100, Hawker 850XP and 1000, Lear 35, 45, 55 and 60, Gulfstream IV and 550, Embraer 135, Beech Premiere and 400A, MD-80.

1 hour ago, JRBarrett said:

The RealityXP and Flight1 GNS-430 add-ons use the trainer software created by Garmin. I think that was what DavidP was referring to. Those units can definitely not be updated by anyone other than Garmin.

That is just flat our wrong. Did you intend to instead say updated databases must come from Garmin?  That is correct. That is much different from saying "units can definitely not be updated by anyone other than Garmin".  I have not had to send my units to Garmin to get them updated.

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1 hour ago, JRBarrett said:

The 1911 is an old cycle. You should not be seeing that cycle on the web site or in the data manager. The current one is 2006. On the Navigraph website (or in the data manger), the download you want is marked “X-Plane GNS430, FF757/767/777... (followed by a long list of other XP aircraft that use the same format). On the Navigraph manual download page under “products” it is at the very end of the list of downloadable databases.

You do understand that the Navigraph downloads are not free? You have to have a subscription (minimum one month), and be logged into your account to actually download the databases.

sorry that was a typo, i pulled a copy and paste from a older firmwire on my pc :/, i've sorted it now through the download manager.

I7 10700K 16GB 3600MHZ RTX3080FE

1 hour ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

The GNS430 is fully updatable with Navigraph

My bad - I thought that you were referring to the RXP.

David Porrett

15 minutes ago, fppilot said:

That is just flat our wrong. Did you intend to instead say updated databases must come from Garmin?  That is correct. That is much different from saying "units can definitely not be updated by anyone other than Garmin".  I have not had to send my units to Garmin to get them updated.

 

16 minutes ago, fppilot said:

That is just flat our wrong. Did you intend to instead say updated databases must come from Garmin?  That is correct. That is much different from saying "units can definitely not be updated by anyone other than Garmin".  I have not had to send my units to Garmin to get them updated.

Yes in saying “by Garmin” I mean “from Garmin”. It’s probably my German heritage showing through that I typically use that phrasing. Garmin and Jeppesen are the only sources from which the databases for either the actual hardware GNS (or the associated trainer) can be obtained. Obviously FMS or GPS units made by Garmin, Rockwell Collins or Honeywell are not sent in to the manufacturer to be updated - it is done with downloadable database files, or via plug-in SIM cards mailed to the subscriber.

Jim Barrett

Licensed Airframe & Powerplant Mechanic, Avionics, Electrical & Air Data Systems Specialist. Qualified on: Falcon 900, CRJ-200, Dornier 328-100, Hawker 850XP and 1000, Lear 35, 45, 55 and 60, Gulfstream IV and 550, Embraer 135, Beech Premiere and 400A, MD-80.

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