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A320 Autopilot Malfunction during final approach

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20 hours ago, Armchair Pilot said:

You should never be really activating appr mode in the fmc. It will activate automatically if you have a flight plan setup.

Check out the casual guide below for help on the 320 neo. Its specifically tailored to folks who struggle with the plane.

 

A320 casual guide

Thanks for the guide, but I was going on someone else’s advice to activate approach in the fmc.

 

13 hours ago, Zimmerbz said:

I doubt you will need to uninstall and reinstall.  I don't think it is a bug.  Are you using the A320 Mod or are you flying default?

As for activating in the MCDU (FMC is Boeing) it should automatically activate as you cross DECEL in managed mode (not sure if that is simulated in MSFS but in real life it should automatically in managed mode).  If you get ATC restrictions for a certain speed or have to fly a different heading and go into selected mode, it is my understanding that you will need to automatically select it in the MCDU.  I've heard from A320 pilots that what they like to do when flying a Star, for example, is fly with selected speed and manually activate the approach.  That way, if they get vectored or need to fly off course close to the airport, approach mode will already be activated.  What I like to do is usually have my speed at 180 and in config 2 for landing at the OM.  After crossing the OM or just after 2500, I select managed speed and drop the gear.  Managed speed should get me to VREF since i am in approach mode.  Not saying there is a right or wrong way to do things, that is just what i have seen / learned over time.  I thought maybe you were in selected modes and didn't activate the approach.  

The other thing it might be is somehow TOGA was activated.  What detent where you in on the thrust lever? 

I have reinstalled MSFS and it made no difference. Stuck with same old problem. When I reinstalled the controller settings were still there as before. This tells me that Microsoft Windows does not remove all files so that the reinstall is not “clean”. I tried to get into the directory which is hidden to delete unwanted files, but Windows blocked me as administrator.  I think there is something wrong with the software, or a setting that I can’t undo. Before Oct 22, everything was fine, which leads me to think it’s not any of my actions flying the aircraft. Last option is to format SSD and reinstall Windows 10.

Can you post some screenshots or even a video?  From the description, it sounds like you are activating alpha-floor and getting auto TOGA thrust.  What speed and flap setting were you at?

 

Edit:  Never mind. I saw and responded to your duplicate posting on the official MSFS site.  To be blunt, but not intending to be offensive, you simply don't know how to operate the airplane. I strongly suggest you watch some video tutorials on how to properly operate an A320. It is a complex airplane, and unfortunately MS/Asobo doesn't provide any documentation on how to operate the various default airplane (other than the simple Cessna). Once you learn how and gain experience, it becomes like second nature, but until you learn how, it is not an easy thing to do.

Edited by Donstim

Strongly suggest using this tutorial from a real Airbus pilot flying MSFS 2020.

 

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8 hours ago, Donstim said:

Can you post some screenshots or even a video?  From the description, it sounds like you are activating alpha-floor and getting auto TOGA thrust.  What speed and flap setting were you at?

 

Edit:  Never mind. I saw and responded to your duplicate posting on the official MSFS site.  To be blunt, but not intending to be offensive, you simply don't know how to operate the airplane. I strongly suggest you watch some video tutorials on how to properly operate an A320. It is a complex airplane, and unfortunately MS/Asobo doesn't provide any documentation on how to operate the various default airplane (other than the simple Cessna). Once you learn how and gain experience, it becomes like second nature, but until you learn how, it is not an easy thing to do.

Again:  I think there is something wrong with the software, or a setting that I can’t undo. Before Oct 22, everything was fine, which leads me to think it’s not any of my actions flying the aircraft. Last option is to format SSD and reinstall Windows 10.

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9 hours ago, Donstim said:

Can you post some screenshots or even a video?  From the description, it sounds like you are activating alpha-floor and getting auto TOGA thrust.  What speed and flap setting were you at?

 

Edit:  Never mind. I saw and responded to your duplicate posting on the official MSFS site.  To be blunt, but not intending to be offensive, you simply don't know how to operate the airplane. I strongly suggest you watch some video tutorials on how to properly operate an A320. It is a complex airplane, and unfortunately MS/Asobo doesn't provide any documentation on how to operate the various default airplane (other than the simple Cessna). Once you learn how and gain experience, it becomes like second nature, but until you learn how, it is not an easy thing to do.

Alpha-floor  triggering TOGA  sounds like what might be happening. OK I need to shut off Alpha floor, or prevent it from happening. I have tried all speeds from 150 to 180, with various flap settings. Again I would like to emphasize that on Oct. 22 and earlier I never had this problem. 

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5 minutes ago, pgonta said:

What is alpha and how its triggering TOGA?

http://www.a320dp.com/A320_DP/engines/sys-5.2.5.html

I really don't think you have an issue with your installation or your pc/SSD setup.  I think you really just need to learn all the differences of an Airbus.  Are you using the default A320 or the mod? 

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switch flight model to modern if its on legacy

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Check out this video from the MS/ASOBO INTERVIEW.. They talk about AutoPilot "B U G S" at 49 min 45 sec.

I don't think the AP issue is what you are seeing.  Are you flying with the default plane?  If so, i'd suggest moving over to the A320 Mod.  it isn't perfect, but it is much improved when compared to the default.  

Also, you can't "turn off" Alpha protections.  They are a part of the Airbus systems

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Also, what happens when you are in managed speed after the approach is activated and you switch off the autopilot?  Next flight try that if the weather is suitable.  Alpha protections should kick in even if you are flying without autopilot so if that happens you might have your culprit. 

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8 hours ago, pgonta said:

Alpha-floor  triggering TOGA  sounds like what might be happening. OK I need to shut off Alpha floor, or prevent it from happening. I have tried all speeds from 150 to 180, with various flap settings. Again I would like to emphasize that on Oct. 22 and earlier I never had this problem. 

You just need to fly the correct speeds with the correct flap settings. Please view the landing tutorial video.

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8 hours ago, jothanon said:

switch flight model to modern if its on legacy

Ok I will try that, Thanks

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11 hours ago, jothanon said:

switch flight model to modern if its on legacy

Ok I will try that, Thanks

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I finally got it working properly. Thanks to everyone here for their input, as I have learned something.

 

I fixed it after the following instructions. I “reset” the MSFS app. Microsoft has an option for “reset” the states “If this app isn’t working correctly, reset it. The app’s data will be deleted.”

 

Also there is a “Repair” feature that states “ If this app isn’t working correctly, we can try to repair it. The app’s data won’t be affected.”

 

I have been flying “Modern” the whole time which seems to be recommended by a lot of people.

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