Do not exceed xxx knots

[Hornit 3]

Airshows come to mind as one exception. Also aircraft such as the SR-71 and one or two others have pretty high "clean" speeds which this addresses. To my knowledge the Administrator doesn't give controllers the authority to change this rule anywhere in the US. After 4 years of civilian fling, 8 years in the Navy, and 16 years in part 121 ops, I have never seen it done either.Hornit

[Guest]

the story doesnt keep changing, never did I say maintain xxx . I just gave a random altitude clearance as an example. there were about 10 different AC who were given instructions by that dep controller.Hornit was not perfectly understandable, he set in stone something that is not set in stone, and everyone after that ridculed me for not believing it 100%But I realize my err. I should have said "I was flying VFR in the area and overheard..."that would have gone over well. instead I open up the can of worms, where pilots feel threatened with anybody but a true professional in their eyes, and their knowledge is all seeing all knowing and nobody better stand in their way.I am done with this useless debate, as I said before, I asked the wrong forum. some people need to take a chill pill and step outside the bubble they call their ego

[Jeff Nielsen 1,386]

Ok gang,I've received the first email from one of the LAX tower guys. Mike has forwarded the request to the SCT because he thinks it's an issue for them. That tells me that the tower definately knows nothing about this...LOL.Here's the email. I'll omit the phone number. I can forward the email to everyone if needed, but let's wait to hear from the Tracon first."Jeff, Mike Valencia is now the "union guy" at LAX. I have forwarded this to him as well. This issue is more an SCT issue than an LAX Tower one. I have taken the liberty to forward this to Tony Vella down at SCT as well. If I have done this right you should have both of their addresses now. Any questions our problems and you know how to get ahold of me and I'll do what I can to help. Mike Foote"

[Hornit 3]

Jeff, My BS account is gone. Im on comcast now campisijimatcomcastdotnetHornit

[Jeff Nielsen 1,386]

AH, rgr that. Thanks Jim.

[Guest]

Listening to LAX tower late one night, the controller told every departing aircraft "climb and maintain FLxx do not exceed 280 knots"I am guessing this means their new speed restriction is 280 instead of 250 below 10k? Is this standard or would it catch a crew offguard and get them confused?Thanks

[John_Cillis 2,406]

I have just finished cleaning up a series of posts which followed your last one Jeff. Let me make it clear--I do not want to see ONE MORE ATTACK from any of those parties involved, or else you will find yourself cooling off on some other site's forums as I won't tolerate that conduct here.I don't give a hoot about egos. Jeff is using his own time to research an issue that those of us who aren't pilots yet (like myself) find interesting. I certainly hope what I see here isn't representative of what happens in the cockpit when you get some strong attitudes behind the yoke. That would be pretty frightening.Jeff--I am anxious to await your feedback. Doubt I will ever exceed 100kts with my Sport Pilot license, but it's good to know what rules are hard and/or when they aren't. Sorry I am not as smart as the other "pilots" here, but I am trying to learn something and Jeff's trying to help. -John

[Jeff Nielsen 1,386]

Wow, I must have missed those posts. I just got back from running errands.Yes, the purpose is for others to learn as well as myself. There's always the outside chance that there could be a policy change for a particular Tracon. you never know.