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Bozo Alert! FSX and FSD Piper Navajo

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Nice add-on for FSX with both 2D and VC cockpits/limited FPS impact.However, unable to get Garmin GPS and instrument lights to work in VC mode...anyone with similar out there?I queried FSD directly and I got what appears to be a generic response--reinstall/reboot/must be my system.Thanks in advance.RakeAMD FX-60/Nvidia 7950GX2 (1GB) video/4GB LL DDR RAM/Raptor 150GB (10000rpm) HD/Dell 24" 1920x1200 resolution

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Go to FSD's website and download the latest service pack for the FSX Navajo. There was a numbering error in the panel.cfg for the VC that is causing this problem, the service pack #2 corrects this.

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Installed the service update 2--went back and updated load manager--it works! Thanks.Rake

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>Go to FSD's website and download the latest service pack for>the FSX Navajo. There was a numbering error in the panel.cfg>for the VC that is causing this problem, the service pack #2>corrects this.What was changed (numbering) in the 'panel.cfg' file?This might help us solve other aircraft lighting problems?

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The last two gauges in VC panel portion of panel config. were labeled number 46. Just change the last one to 47. Bob..

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Still very dim panel at night in VC mode--though the Garmin is working--can only adjust lighting in 2D.Rakefsxnavajovcnight.jpg

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Well Im getting tired of being a paying beta tester for FSX.I know,I know its FSX COMPATABLE. Then charge 10 bucks not 30.Navajo was one of my FS9 favorites so after waiting the last week for the FSX problems to be fixed, I bought it today.Some new problems,some of the old still there after all this time.My landing lights do not work and Im wondering if ANY non default do.I cannot change the altitude via the ap in the vc.Changing the climb rate via the vc is:-mad Very tiny tiny clickspot with the - minus driving me insane.Eventually the shift number to view ful panel,map ect stops working just like some other planes in fsx Ive had trouble with.AAAAGGGHHTake a breath.....Sorry if Im being hard but this is a great plane and in FS9 was one of my favorites.Payed 30 $$$ for version 2/ fsx version and see no real difference or improvements. Just new problems.Overall not a bad plane but no way in ****$30This is my LAST FSX COMPATABLE plane Im buying.

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JIMJAMAre you having similar issues with lack of VC instrument panel lighting? As an aside, I noticed an interesting issue a couple days ago. I flew the Navajo from Manhattan KS to Wash DC (KDCA), a trip of roughly 920nm, and with the tailwind, a little over 4hrs flying time. I noticed after 3hrs frame rates decreasing significantly in VC mode when panning around and outside the cockpit--from a steady 30-40fps to 10 or less. Stayed that way for no apparent reason (no change in weather, video card temp etc). When I decoupled the autopilot and began descent into DCA, frame rates began to increase to the average I get in Wash DC--20-25.Just curious if anyone else has experienced frame rate degradation the longer the flight (over 3-4hrs). Not sure if that's a Navajo unique thing, generic FSX issue, or my computer.ThanksRake AMD FX-60/Nvidia 7950GX2 (1GB) video/4GB ultra low latency RAM/Raptor 150GB (10000rpm)HD/Dell 24" (FSX 1920x1200)

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I have the opposite problem. The lighting in the VC is gorgeous but I get no lighting whatsover in 2D.Remember, to turn on the panel lights in the VC you have to RIGHT click the knob.Jim

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I do not know yet what all works,does not,sometimes works.Just venting and getting frustrated.Just about everything Ive bought for FSX 1/2 works or has some sort of problem.Seeing that Ive already bought this plane for FS9 and now for FSX,just expected more.

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The VC landing lights visible is a bug common to all aircraft except the default planes. The VC altitude adjust does not work yet, but I didn't notice because I use Go-flight modules. The VC night lighting works for me, but the 2d does not. LOL. Adjust the VC lighting via the overhead panel rheostat in the middle of the overhead panel.http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/163015.jpg

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Is that mouse right click or position the cursor to the right of the knob and click. Do you have a screenshot?Rake

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My pitot heat does not work.Any weather scenerio with snow my airspeed pegs out and stays there.Can someone confirm this?Toggled the overhead switches with no effect.

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Jim,My pitot heat seems to work fine. Also FSD is aware of the panel lighting (2d) problem and working on it. The plane is a pleasure to fly in FSX. In fact I find it very difficult to fly FS9 (all but heavies) because of the improved sense of motion in FSX. The smooth landings and takeoffs are superior to my FS9 experience. :)Bob..

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Concur...the Navajo is a superb payware add to FSX...some minor cliches (some operator induced) but all in all a keeper. Flight modeling is some of the best I've experienced. Rake

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Ive calmed down from my initial dissapointment. Guess most all new FSX addons are going to have some problems.Yes, the same reason I loved the Navajo in FS9 is the same I do in FSX. Just overall a great handling plane that feels right.If the developers read this, try and fix the AP operation,altitude from the vc and also the vsi. I cannot adjust either from the vc. IMO running a aircraft from pop up to pop up just ruins the simulation.Looking forward to the MU-2.

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I've been enjoying the Navajo since Version 1 first came out. I hope they get the bugs sorted out soon. Meanwhile I'm still enjoying it, just working around the bugs. The FSD plane I'm looking forward to now is the Piper Saratoga.Jim

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They posted a patch a couple days ago that corrects all this stuff. At least they address these things right away and fix them.Rob

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Just so those folks who are having problems with the Navajo V2 in FSX don't feel too bad, I have been using it exclusively in FS9. I like the standard version of the Navajo alot which is why I bought it because I haven't gotten FSX.....yet.I want to say the additional animations are nice, wipers (because FS9 has rain effects on the windshield), sun visors, arm rests, tables in the cabin and the fridge door. But I guess those using FSX won't be able to appreciate some of those things because there is no active camera for FSX. That's a big problem for me who swaps seats with the copilot and some times relax in the back passenger seats or see if the fridge is stocked.What I'm having minor problems with in FS9 are:1. Cabin door WON'T ALWAYS close with Shift+E or the click points, sometimes I have to reload the airplane or fly with the door open. Posted on FSD's forum.2. Battery switch in VC has no effect on the battery operation. Always have to turn it on from the throttle quad in the 2D pop-up because ctrl+E won't even turn it on.3. Starboard Cowl flap non operational from the VC switch. 2D pop up ok.4. Some cabin announcement switches in the overhead are non-op in VC but 2D popup over head is ok.Daryll

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>JIMJAM>>Are you having similar issues with lack of VC instrument panel>lighting? >>As an aside, I noticed an interesting issue a couple days ago.>I flew the Navajo from Manhattan KS to Wash DC (KDCA), a trip>of roughly 920nm, and with the tailwind, a little over 4hrs>flying time. I noticed after 3hrs frame rates decreasing>significantly in VC mode when panning around and outside the>cockpit--from a steady 30-40fps to 10 or less. Stayed that>way for no apparent reason (no change in weather, video card>temp etc). When I decoupled the autopilot and began descent>into DCA, frame rates began to increase to the average I get>in Wash DC--20-25.>>Just curious if anyone else has experienced frame rate>degradation the longer the flight (over 3-4hrs). Not sure if>that's a Navajo unique thing, generic FSX issue, or my>computer.>>Thanks>Rake >AMD FX-60/Nvidia 7950GX2 (1GB) video/4GB ultra low latency>RAM/Raptor 150GB (10000rpm)HD/Dell 24" (FSX 1920x1200)I also have noticed a decrease in the pan rate as time goes by; long flights that is. Doesn't seem to matter which aircraft I use.

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WaldoThanks for picking up on that addendum. Not sure what impacts pan rate over time--perhaps some sort of memory cache thing--I haven't attempted a long flight (greater than 3hrs) with any other aircraft to see if it is an FSX issue or a Navajo one.Rake

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