SU6: Graphic issues introduced with SU5 persist

[Tom_L 558]

Since SU5 there is some banding (or rasterized color transitions) in the sky , clouds now often appear "artistic", as there seems to be a reduced variation in and between light and dark areas. Also the clouds tend to show pink and yellow/greenish banding/fringes. A purple pattern is discernable all over the screen but most noticeable in the sky.

The cause of this is unknown to me, but according to some threads I have read it seems reasonable to assume that there have been changes to the render engine of MSFS, probably involving a reduced or compressed color palette.

You think you are not affected? Try this: Check the reflection of the sun on the world map and compare to the picture below.

 

I hope many of you feel like me that this is something in need of a fix. But as of today I'm not sure Microsobo is aware of the problem, although I can't imagine how it should have gone unnoticed for so long.
Be it as it may, I suggest to upvote this thread that has been going since SU5 but could certainly need more traction. In an ideal world, everyone doing so would also file a Zendesk report.

Thank you!

 

 

 

 

Edited October 21, 2021 by Tom_L

[bobcat999 8,507]

Very true Tom, but I think it is just a matter of priorities at the moment.  It's still a very long list they are working on, and not everything can make it to the front pages of their feedback snapshot!  

I think this is the Idea with SU7, and especially SU8 (the bugfix special) - they need to clear the decks a bit!

[fogboundturtle 2,708]

This will probably never be fixed. This is because they have tweak their color scheme and gamma for HDR. Windows/GPU does a bad job of tone mapping back to a SDR signal. This is why you see the gradient.  The only way to get rid of it is to actually get a proper HDR display. 

[Tom_L 558]

Just now, fogboundturtle said:

The only way to get rid of it is to actually get a proper HDR display. 

That's what I thought too, but I've read comments of HDR display owners expieriencing the same.

[fogboundturtle 2,708]

1 minute ago, Tom_L said:

That's what I thought too, but I've read comments of HDR display owners expieriencing the same.

Windows 10 does a really poor job with HDR but Windows 11 is really good. Of course, if you are using a TV set instead of an HDR pc monitor , it will be even better.

[DylanM 1,069]

3 minutes ago, fogboundturtle said:

This will probably never be fixed. This is because they have tweak their color scheme and gamma for HDR. Windows/GPU does a bad job of tone mapping back to a SDR signal. This is why you see the gradient.  The only way to get rid of it is to actually get a proper HDR display. 

I run Windows 11 with HDR on an OLED display - the banding is definitely still there.

[fogboundturtle 2,708]

2 minutes ago, DylanM said:

I run Windows 11 with HDR on an OLED display - the banding is definitely still there.

That is interesting. I wonder if this is the same on Xbox. 

[DylanM 1,069]

There was a topic created for Dev Q&A but it was never touched on

Can you explain the changes in SU5 that lead to color banding and fringes for many user on SDR monitors and are they fixable? - Archives / Dev Q&A: October 20, 2021 - Microsoft Flight Simulator Forums

[Tom_L 558]

 

3 minutes ago, fogboundturtle said:

I wonder if this is the same on Xbox. 

Yep, maybe someone knowing about that could chime in?

[bobcat999 8,507]

Could this be the same issue that causes the similar looking colour banding on the undersides of clouds?

Stupid me - Tom already mentioned it!  

Edited October 21, 2021 by bobcat999

[Tom_L 558]

Sorry folks,

I just had to bring this up again. Is this the graphics quality to expect from any game today? MSFS Homepage:

Please (re)consider voting here.  Thanks!

[hanhamreds 592]

I do agree with the OP so have submitted a ticket and up voted.

[MrFuzzy 2,124]

On 10/21/2021 at 7:04 PM, Tom_L said:

That's what I thought too, but I've read comments of HDR display owners expieriencing the same.

With my Samsung C27HG70 I can see banding in SDR but not in HDR mode.