October 29, 20214 yr A bit of a strange problem. I'm using the Saitek yoke and throttle, and when I fly the c208 the mixture doesn't seem to work. It's mapped, and when I use the Mooney I have no issues, it seems to be only an issue with the c208.
October 29, 20214 yr The 208 doesn't have a mixture control. It's a turbine. It has a condition lever which has three settings. Cutoff kills fuel to the engine. Low idle gives you a low base RPM for the prop. High idle gives you a higher base RPM for the prop. Low idle should be used when taxiing, and high idle should be used for flight. I haven't flown the 208 since the sim was pretty new, but I seem to vaguely recall it was improperly labeled as a "mixture" lever. Perhaps it still is? At any rate, the slider I use for mixture does not work for the condition lever either, so there's nothing wrong with your Saitek. Edited October 29, 20214 yr by eslader Ryzen 7 7800X3D/B650 X AX | 5090 | 32gig | Win10 | Pimax Crystal Light
October 29, 20214 yr Yeah the mouse over that says "mixture" in the C208 is a bug. It is a condition lever. Mixture is something you have on an engine with pistons. There are no pistons in a C208 engine - it is one of the ubiquitous Pratt and Whitney PT6A you come across everywhere - a reverse-flow dual shaft free-turbine with a separate 3-stage-axial-flow + 1-stage-centrifugal-flow compressor. See the video. Edited October 29, 20214 yr by Glenn Fitzpatrick
October 29, 20214 yr 3 hours ago, eslader said: Low idle should be used when taxiing, and high idle should be used for flight. Oh really?! I've been doing the opposite for months 😄 never noticed any issues though, flies lovely for me🙂 Pico Neo3 Link VR - Windows 11 64bit, Gigabyte Z590 Aorus Elite Mobo, i7-10700KF CPU, Gigabyte RX 9070 XT OC 16gb (AMD GPU), 32gig Corsair 3600mhz RAM, SSD x2 + M.2 SSD 1tb x1 Saitek X45 HOTAS - Saitek Pro Rudder Pedals - Logitech Flight Yoke - Homemade 3 Button & 8-directional Joystick Box, SNES Controller (used as a Button Box - Additional USB Numpad (used as a Button Box)
October 29, 20214 yr Good link about how to start a PT6 as well. http://airplanepilot.blogspot.com/2005/07/starting-pt6.html Ignore the bit about squirrels I think she made that up. Edited October 29, 20214 yr by Glenn Fitzpatrick
October 29, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, MarcG said: Oh really?! I've been doing the opposite for months 😄 never noticed any issues though, flies lovely for me🙂 I know, I forgot to set the condition lever to the top position once, and it worked just as well anyway 😄 System: I ASRock X670E | AMD 7800X3D | 64Gb DDR5 6000 | RTX 4090 | 2TB NVMe | Seasonic Vertex 1000W I LG Ultra Gear 34 UW I
October 29, 20214 yr 5 hours ago, MarcG said: Oh really? Yep. 5 hours ago, MarcG said: I've been doing the opposite for months 😄 Then you've been doing it wrong for months. 😉 5 hours ago, MarcG said: never noticed any issues though, flies lovely for me🙂 Yeah, you probably wouldn't, unless you needed to go around, and then it takes longer for the engine to spool up. Full disclosure, I have no idea if the sim accurately models this. But if you poke around discussions of real 208 fliers, this is a common debate. Some leave it in low idle all the time because then they aren't moving the lever backwards after landing, which prevents the possibility of moving it too far back and into cutoff. Others point out the issue of spool time when you need faster engine response. The POH calls for high idle in flight. Ryzen 7 7800X3D/B650 X AX | 5090 | 32gig | Win10 | Pimax Crystal Light
October 29, 20214 yr I wonder if the 208 mod makes more "realistic" use of this perhaps. Pico Neo3 Link VR - Windows 11 64bit, Gigabyte Z590 Aorus Elite Mobo, i7-10700KF CPU, Gigabyte RX 9070 XT OC 16gb (AMD GPU), 32gig Corsair 3600mhz RAM, SSD x2 + M.2 SSD 1tb x1 Saitek X45 HOTAS - Saitek Pro Rudder Pedals - Logitech Flight Yoke - Homemade 3 Button & 8-directional Joystick Box, SNES Controller (used as a Button Box - Additional USB Numpad (used as a Button Box)
October 29, 20214 yr This is my understanding of how the couple throttle/condition lever works. Quite logical. At low idle and high idle the turbine rotates respectively at a minimum of 52 % and 69 % of its maximum when the throttle is at idle. You can use HI to start to taxi a « sticky » bird but then better switch back to LI to avoid a runaway. As your throttle is not at idle during a cruise, it does not really make a difference. Better have it at HI to minimize the spooling lag during the descent in case of a need to urgently stop it and climb again or initiate a GA during a botched approach. Edited October 29, 20214 yr by Dominique_K Dominique Simming since 1981 - [email protected] GHz with 16 GB of RAM and a 1080 with 8 GB VRAM running a 27" @ 2560*1440 - Windows 10 - Warthog HOTAS - MFG pedals - MSFS Standard version with Steam
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