Hi,

I have downloaded MCE yesterday for use with the NGXu under Prepar3d v5.3 and was wondering if the following is possible. 

First of all I do not want the FO to flip any switches, press buttons or do any other cockpit interactions since I want to do all that stuff on my hardware by myself.

So im mainly looking for other things in MCE. Which of the following is possible and what would be the best way to do it?

- Call Flight Attendants to start GSX Boarding process including playing own(?) boarding music.

- Communicate with Ground Crew to initiate pushback via GSX. How do I tell him to use the GSX pushback e.g. with Nose to the left?

- Have the CoPilot doing callouts during engine start like "eng starter cutout" and "25% N2". Can I have this feature even with monitoring and callouts function disabled in the menu or does that gave to be on?

Thanks!

Best regards Andi 

 

1 hour ago, 737Andi said:

Hi,

I have downloaded MCE yesterday for use with the NGXu under Prepar3d v5.3 and was wondering if the following is possible. 

First of all I do not want the FO to flip any switches, press buttons or do any other cockpit interactions since I want to do all that stuff on my hardware by myself.

So im mainly looking for other things in MCE. Which of the following is possible and what would be the best way to do it?

- Call Flight Attendants to start GSX Boarding process including playing own(?) boarding music.

- Communicate with Ground Crew to initiate pushback via GSX. How do I tell him to use the GSX pushback e.g. with Nose to the left?

- Have the CoPilot doing callouts during engine start like "eng starter cutout" and "25% N2". Can I have this feature even with monitoring and callouts function disabled in the menu or does that gave to be on?

Thanks!

Best regards Andi 

 

Set up your flight deck. As you require.

Load MCE.

Dont ask for anything you dont want. MCE will remain silent.

MCE is a Voice Activated program.

Stay silent and it wont do anything!

This isnt a push button, Disc Jockey push button, adventure game progam!

It will only do what you ask it to.

Its your First Officer. Plane and basic. Its your First Officer.

Ive been using this for 10 years. At least thats what I have gained from it?

Its a Pilots Program.

P3d is excellent. All aircraft will perform properly. MCE works 100% with it!

MCE always could monitor all the engine parameters and flight parameters.

Someone will be along to answer your specific question.

I dont have any up to date P3d aircraft...Ive run out of Doe! LOL

In MSFS,

Its best for us to await the PMDG 737 for advanced systems functionality.

THings like engine monitoring, were possible with P3d and FSX, but Sobo have altered the parameters.

Most Asobo aircraft are very simplistic and are basic in functionality. They lack the sophistication of FSX and P3d or even XP? (My opinion alone)

Ohh I will be shot down over the last comment! LOL

Cheers

Edited December 15, 20214 yr by charlie130
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4 hours ago, 737Andi said:

Hi,

I have downloaded MCE yesterday for use with the NGXu under Prepar3d v5.3 and was wondering if the following is possible. 

First of all I do not want the FO to flip any switches, press buttons or do any other cockpit interactions since I want to do all that stuff on my hardware by myself.

So im mainly looking for other things in MCE. Which of the following is possible and what would be the best way to do it?

- Call Flight Attendants to start GSX Boarding process including playing own(?) boarding music.

- Communicate with Ground Crew to initiate pushback via GSX. How do I tell him to use the GSX pushback e.g. with Nose to the left?

- Have the CoPilot doing callouts during engine start like "eng starter cutout" and "25% N2". Can I have this feature even with monitoring and callouts function disabled in the menu or does that gave to be on?

Thanks!

Best regards Andi 

 

All the above possible.

Can create a custom trigger sentence that starts a wav file (max 100 MB) Music or pre-recoded own airline cabin crew chatter

See document Start->Multi Crew Experience->GSX&AES Document for speech commands to use. Or watch this video, which inclides GSX integration

 

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Regarding pushback.

MCE will detect when you're using GSX and get the mechanic to transfer you to GSX mechanic once you have requested pushback.

Or, could use native pushback which you can see in this video shot in MSFS

 

 

Callouts and monitoring will work. Fo will know the Vspeeds you insert into FMC.

Up to you to use Checklist feature.

Can also "Talk Atc jargon" with Native Atc, PF3 ATC or Radar Contact ATC.

 

Great, thank you. I will have a look at all manuals soon.

 

One question regarding the engine starter cutout callout. I assume I can only get such a FO note when the callout and monitoring feature is ticked on in the setup, correct?

14 hours ago, 737Andi said:

First of all I do not want the FO to flip any switches, press buttons or do any other cockpit interactions since I want to do all that stuff on my hardware by myself.

that's weird    ....... there is no no cockpit i know of (including a real one) where the PF doesn't need the PNF to at least "set  flaps / gear " etc.

it's the core purpose of MCE, not managing loading etc which is by others ....  

5 hours ago, 737Andi said:

Great, thank you. I will have a look at all manuals soon.

 

One question regarding the engine starter cutout callout. I assume I can only get such a FO note when the callout and monitoring feature is ticked on in the setup, correct?

Call-outs and monitoring assume you want the co-pilot to be there.

having said that, the most important thing to take from MCE, it's NOT a "scripted adventure" where you're put on rails and perform some role play with the FO who would be dictating your behaviour.

It's a "fully interactive crew simulation". You make your crew simulation as you see fit.

Having the FO enabled, doesn't mean you have to use him in a "specific way".

You could do the hardware switching manually as you're used to, then have him do the call-outs, ask him to read your custom checklist if you want him to, or dial the odd radio freq or MCP speed, hdg, alt if your hands are tied.

No head scratching over who does what.

You run the show. Not the software forcing you to adjust your behaviour.

The difference between effective voice control that works and is fun to use for years, as opposed to voice coercion (speak this exact thing and only when the software allows you to)  with scripted behaviour which you get tired of after a while.

 

4 hours ago, vadriver said:

that's weird    ....... there is no no cockpit i know of (including a real one) where the PF doesn't need the PNF to at least "set  flaps / gear " etc.

it's the core purpose of MCE, not managing loading etc which is by others ....  

True. But 90% of my cockpit interactions are with hardware. So if e.g. the FO is switching something on the OVERHEAD it will not flip the switch on my real OVERHEAD but only in the software which gets kind of confusing.

7 hours ago, 737Andi said:

Great, thank you. I will have a look at all manuals soon.

 

One question regarding the engine starter cutout callout. I assume I can only get such a FO note when the callout and monitoring feature is ticked on in the setup, correct?

Can I perform the engine start procedure on my own and only have the FO for the verbal feedback like "engine starter cut out" call, etc?

1 hour ago, 737Andi said:

Can I perform the engine start procedure on my own and only have the FO for the verbal feedback like "engine starter cut out" call, etc?

Affirmative. Entirely up to you who starts the engines and in which order.

You could announce "starting engine two", "starting engine one" while rotating the start switch so he can monitor.

 

2 hours ago, 737Andi said:

Can I perform the engine start procedure on my own and only have the FO for the verbal feedback like "engine starter cut out" call, etc?

Forgot to mention.

I assume you're not using Project Magenta bespoke software to run your Simpit as that is untested scenario.

11 hours ago, vadriver said:

that's weird    ....... there is no no cockpit i know of (including a real one) where the PF doesn't need the PNF to at least "set  flaps / gear " etc.

it's the core purpose of MCE, not managing loading etc which is by others ....  

Correct.

If you have your company procedure there, you can include it into the VoxScript flow.

Now thats the sheer power of MCE!

You can use your own company flows in there! Or even amend them, like you always wanted to!

Lufthansa/AA/Germanwings/BA...you name it, MCE can do it.

Just type in the flow into the VoxScript!

Bingo!

😉

 

7 hours ago, charlie130 said:

You can use your own company flows in there

indeed, but I see the OP's "use" is a tad different ..... he's more single pilot ops than I can / would want.

17 hours ago, vadriver said:

indeed, but I see the OP's "use" is a tad different ..... he's more single pilot ops than I can / would want.

Not quite with you there?

No the whole point of MCE is FO operated.

It helps if you have a FO flow.

Obviously, if your a Captain and have your FO flow, thats great!

But if not...make one up!

You must make a flow!

Esay to do with MCE VOXSCRIPT!

Sorry.

If you add a line to a VOXSCRIPT, it will be executed exactly!

Its a computer program, it cant do anything else but execute a line!

If you get a line wrong, it will err.

SH.. in SH.. out!

😉

 

@charlie130

On 12/17/2021 at 1:46 AM, 737Andi said:

True. But 90% of my cockpit interactions are with hardware. So if e.g. the FO is switching something on the OVERHEAD it will not flip the switch on my real OVERHEAD but only in the software which gets kind of confusing

 

Why not try the FS alternative? (Oh Dear me)

He gives you the adventure..."press this key to get a voice and key command"...Nice and SIMPLE?

Trouble with it is that its a scrpted adventure,,,,You have no real control.

MCE gives you control at any stage of flight.

I wouldnt bother with MCE if it were not so!

Trust me it works.

Just get the little details correct!

 

Edited December 19, 20214 yr by charlie130
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