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Hi allI have read so much on this forum about the "trackir"can someone tell me what does it do that the hat on thech yoke doesnt do.my thanks for any info Don

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I find it smoother, and faster than the ch yoke. You can also move your head closer to the screen for instance to "magnify" an instrument and even look behind things-for instance the landing gear lights/lever in the Baron is hidden behind stuff like the real plane-just move your head up a little and closer to the screen and you can look "behind" the control yoke to see it-just like the real plane! You can move your head in a very lifelike manner to look around for quick looks like while in the pattern-unlike the hat switch. It is a whole different world and well worth it!http://mywebpages.comcast.net/geofa/pages/rxp-pilot.jpg

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Well - it is a way to immerse yourself in the virtual cockpit without needing a hat. You can also just turn your head - slow to track something, or super fast to glance at your flaps or something - waay better than a hat switch. You can also move your head side to side, or lean forward and look up - like in a turn from base to final. Expensive - but I wouldn't fly without mine anymore. Trackir.com - lots of screen shots and video files.

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Just to make it clear to you, perhaps it should be said that it's an infrared head tracking device. You wear a reflective tracking clip on the brim of your baseball cap, and an infrared camera mounted on your computer screen tracks its movement.Mike.

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I don't think there is one piece of equipment that I have bought over the last 4 years or so that has increased the reality factor for my simming as much as the TrackIR has done.Even though I have a 22" WS monitor, the TrackIR gives me back a little of the peripheral vision that is so lacking in FS using the standard viewing tools.I had a 2 hr RW flight yesterday in a C172 and replicating the flight when I got home both with and without the TIR made me appreciate just how good it is.Cheers,Chris Porter:-outtaPerthWestern AustraliaIntel Core 2 Duo E6700ASUS P5N32-E SLI Deluxe Motherboard4GB Corsair VS DDR2 667Mhz RAMInno3D 8800 GTX 768MB GDDR3 590MHz VideoASUS MW221u 21" Wide Screen LCD2 x 320Gb WD SATA DrivesCreative X-Fi Platinum Sound Lian Li PC-B20B Aluminium Black CaseMS Vista Ultimate OEMCH FlightSim Yoke USBCH Pro Pedals USBTrackIR 4 Pro and Track ClipMSFS FSX Deluxe Edition Full install at 1400x960x32Check out my 5th Around the World flight with MS FSX at http://members.iinet.com.au/~portercbp/fly...W_05/index.html

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I recently added a widescreen monitor to my setup. TrackIR4 works even better with widescreen.As for what it can do that a button can't: Speed-dependent panning. Look up and look down almost instantaneous, if desired. Greater `pointing` accuracy, smoother scrolling, greater range of movement - zoom by leaning forward, wide FOV by leaning back, tilt AND pan in any direction. Lean around the virtual cockpit yoke to see the switches. Adjustable sensitivity, completely configurable. And of course, it frees up that button to be used for something else.Allcott

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Or you put the new TrackClip on a headphone to get even better results!I fully agree with what has been said before: this is THE BEST piece of hardware (outside the computer itself ;) ) which I have ever bought and it TOTALLY changed my simming life. I'm playing nothing but FS X ever since I bought it some time ago. You can NOT compare it to using a hat really, that's NO comparison. Really! It's completely different. It's instantly, quick, realistic, lifelike, you can move in ALL directions, just as if you are sitting in that plane for real! It's the BEST! :)

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I agree with everybody here. I kept hearing fantastic reviews about the TrackIR and evrybody who bought one would go on and on about how good it is. I was worried it might be a bit of a gimmick. So i decided to take the plunge and I bought one to see what it was like. Now I am joining the chorus of praise for this product because it is quite simply the best thing I have EVER bought. It totally and utterly changes the way you view flight simulator. Full Stop. Microsoft should be asking NaturalPoint to supply it with FSX,LOL ,it is that good. So all I can say is...get one and I promise you won't regret it.Rhydianwww.cessnasim.blogspot.com

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The test comes when you have to fly a sim NOT equipped with it! You know a product is good when you'd rather switch the sim off, than be without it. Track IR is one of those products. It's difficult to quantify, but there are several situations when in the cockpit you want to move the viewpoint but the hassle of using buttons simply gets in the way - picking the turning point from Base to Final is a perfect example, especially if you are already altering the bank angle and flying base/final more as a combined oval than separate legs. Buttons just get in the way as you need to adjust the tilt as well as the left/right, and in a high wing plane you might also want to duck a little to look under the wing to keep the runway in sight, or lean forward and look through the upper part of the windscreen. Or looking out for traffic. All this while maintaining control and adjusting bank angle and turn rate, and rate of descent. I don't believe that is possible with ANY control setup other than Track IR, yet this is such an instrinsic part of real flying that to be without it renders the sim considerably less `real`. I know GeofA will agree with me when I say that, in many phases of flight, it is actually more important than the beloved autogen in creating the illusion of reality.Allcott

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Are any of you guys using IRTrack, 2d full screen with a projection display? If so, your thoughts.Regards,Richard

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Excellent videos on the TrackIR website too. The thing I dig about it is the additional movement (height, left/right position, left/right head tilt, etc) that's opened up, which a hat switch just can't do for you. It's a pretty cool thing to be on final approach in an open-cockpit biplane, and just shift your head to the left a little bit and be looking forward from the side of the cockpit just like you'd do in the real thing, to be able to line up with the runway, etc......very slick!http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/Sto...RunwayAhead.jpg

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>Excellent videos on the TrackIR website too. The thing I dig>about it is the additional movement (height, left/right>position, left/right head tilt, etc) that's opened up, which a>hat switch just can't do for you. It's a pretty cool thing to>be on final approach in an open-cockpit biplane, and just>shift your head to the left a little bit and be looking>forward from the side of the cockpit just like you'd do in the>real thing, to be able to line up with the runway,>etc......very slick!>>http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/Sto...RunwayAhead.jpg>Yup, have to agree. I have been using the Aerosoft Beaver X and the TIR really helps with ground handling and situational awareness.Cheers,Chris Porter:-outtaPerthWestern AustraliaCheck out my 5th Around the World flight with MS FSX at http://members.iinet.com.au/~portercbp/fly...W_05/index.html

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>picking the>turning point from Base to Final is a perfect example,>especially if you are already altering the bank angle and>flying base/final more as a combined oval than separate legs.EXACTLY! :) I (almost) never ever did manual landings with the official circuit: I always landed straight in because flying a circuit was so hard. I even (almost) always used ILS if possible. I would even choose an airfield for landing only if it had an ILS!But not anymore! With the Track IR doing a circuit is AWESOME! I love it! I even started to fly the total approach manually. Nothing better than making the turn to base to final in one smooth movement! It's so rewarding when you end your turn RIGHT before the treshold. With TIR this is possible, just as it is in real life! Without TIR I wouldn't even think about it. This is yet another example of how TIR really changed the FS X experience for me!It's funny to see EVERYONE who has Track IR is so excited about it! :)

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@ GreengrassI have one too and since there is nothing more to add to the above......nuff said, get it, try it, love it, you will never fly without it anymore... it's simply superb...case closed.

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Resolution on those devices is not nearly high enough.

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Really, the only thing against the Track IR unit is how you get used to wearing the hat with the clip-sensor-unit-thingy on it. I've answered the door for the Pizza Dude wearing it and gotten strange looks, and once, a crisis developed when I had the day off from work and met my wife at a nearby restaraunt for her lunch break. She kept asking me if all I'd done all day was fly around in my simulators, to which I answered No, Of Course Not, (standard answer to stay out of trouble) but she kept pressing the point, and rolling her eyes when I stood my ground... Only when I went back to my car afterwards and knocked the sensor gizmo off my visor brim against the car door sill did I realize what I'd done.

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my thanks for all the input im convinced,its on its wayDon

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You won't be disappointed, I am posting a little late to this thread I know, with you already having made a purchase decision. The TrackIR has such a huge impact on the feeling of immersion within the FSX/FS9 world that flying with out it is like night and day.The only negative aspect I can point out is that I understand there is a risk of motion sickness for some people using this device, although I have used it for several hours continously with nothing more than a slightly achy neck.

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If your frame rate gets choppy, you might get some vertigo. I've noticed that as well. As to the TrackClip Pro, because of the wires, you won't wear your TrackIR device in public, unless you really want to. Both that and the Vector Clip look like something out of a science fiction movie, but unfortunately, wearing them makes you look like you just escaped from an elementary school science fair. The worst offender, though is the Silver Dot. In the beginning, TrackIR users were given a pad of sticky reflective silver dots that could be stuck on a hat, on classes, or even your own forehead. It was easy to forget you were wearing it.Personal shame: although I jumped onto the TrackIR bandwagon with TrackIR4 (no silver dots), I did have a bad experience with one. As part of my review, I wanted to try out things that I thought should spoof the IR camera. I had some sticky silver dots that are used as reference points for MoCap (motion capture), so I tried one of those on my bare forehead. As it happened, the silver dots the TrackIR needs are very specific, so not just any silver dot will do. I made my notes, wrote my review, and forgot about the dot. I was, however, reminded of its existence at the beginning of a rather intimate dinner - fortunately, I was cooking at home, and we didn't go out. Anyway, as I have mentioned before, please read my review:http://www.avsim.com/pages/0207/TrackClip/TrackClip.htmThe very short form of it: I consider the TrackIR to be a peripheral at least as important to a flight simmer as a joystick or a monitor. Jeff ShylukAvsim Product Reviewer

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Great story, that's why I bought the clip, you remember you're wearing bulky headphones.Ian.

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Could not agree more - an amazing piece of simmer kit - tops marks for immersion.

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