7 hours ago, 109Sqn said:

As in my original post, and 6 posts above this one, they are 3600MHz, 2 matching pairs (as opposed  to a set of 4). Problem as stated is that the BIOS wants to limit it to 2133MHz. Again as above,

 

Check using HWiFO64 the BIOS will show 2133mhz but that may not be what it`s running at. If your expecting to see 3600mhz in the BIOS that`s not how it works.

I think what you are seeing is the MB max Bandwidth which is 2133mhz. 

Edited March 5, 20224 yr by G-RFRY

On 3/5/2022 at 9:30 AM, G-RFRY said:

If your expecting to see 3600mhz in the BIOS that`s not how it works.

I wasn't aware of that. You can only see what the RAM is actually running at from within Windows then? So why does the BIOS show a slower speed? This is news to me so I'm not entirely clear about what you're saying.

37 minutes ago, 109Sqn said:

I wasn't aware of that. You can only see what the RAM is actually running at from within Windows then? So why does the BIOS show a slower speed? This is news to me so I'm not entirely clear about what you're saying.

Task Manger>Performance>ram, But CPUZ will tell if your running XMP on the memory tab.

25 minutes ago, G-RFRY said:

Task Manger>Performance>ram, But CPUZ will tell if your running XMP on the memory tab.

Cheers. Task Manager shows 2133MHz and CPU-Z says 1064.1MHz (but obviously you double that for dual banked RAM). "Uncore Frequency" shows as 3591.2MHz but I don't know anything about that. The SPD tab shows Max Bandwidth as DDR4-2133 (1066MHz) and SPD Ext. as XMP 2.0.

But the above is all with XMP disabled in the BIOS at present. I'll check all the above when I am able to try XMP settings later (The MSFS re-install still has a long way to go).

Exactly 12 hours since I started re-installing MSFS, I think it's all done! Time to check all my settings have been retained and doing some test flights before I put any non-Marketplace add-ons back.

On 1/22/2022 at 1:16 AM, 109Sqn said:

Specific issues to MSFS, hence not posted in the Hardware forum.

After solving this issue, Lost all aircraft sounds but ATC sounds unaffected. HELP! I have a new problem. Or problems.

Firstly, enabling XMP in my BIOS results in CTDs every time I start a flight, every one of them (bar one) between roll out and the wheels leaving the ground. The other time was when the sim had been sitting on the home menu for 5 minutes or so. As my sig shows, my RAM is 3600MHz, not officially supported by the mobo.

 

 

 

 

Guess what king of an issue I'm now having? 😁 You guessed it. When XMP enabled (Trident Z DDR5) games freeze or crtasdh. Just set XMP off and so far so good. Is it a DDR5 issue? Maybe, or given we both have Z690 boards, maybe its a Z690 issue. 

I'm just about to check if there's a new BIOS for my Z690 Apex. 

So far so good. Updated BIOS and XMP is working... so far. 

Thanks for the PM.

On 4/25/2022 at 1:08 PM, martin-w said:

Is it a DDR5 issue? Maybe, or given we both have Z690 boards, maybe its a Z690 issue

I'm on DDR4, so not necessarily a DDR5 issue.

 

4 hours ago, martin-w said:

So far so good. Updated BIOS and XMP is working... so far. 

Good to hear.👍I may check at some point to see if there's an update for my board.

I'd still love to know why I seem to be the only person suffering from stutters when anything (such as Game Bar or Windows' own volume display) overlays my screen though. So annoying.😤

3 hours ago, 109Sqn said:

Good to hear.👍I may check at some point to see if there's an update for my board.

 

I would if I were you. Z690 is quite new. There are bound to be issues like this to fix with updates. Always the way with new architectures. Seems to have worked for me.

Actually I've had three issues to fix.

1. The crashes with XMP enabled: Fixed with a BIOS update it seems. 🤞

My Corsair Strafe keyboard went bonkers and kept disabling certain keys: Fixed with a reinstall of the Keyboard software.

And then today, after updating Asus Armoury Crate, all manner of issues with Fan Xpert 4. In fact I lost the ability to access it. Nothing worked to fix it. I only use it for motherboard led control and fan Xpert, so I thought to hell with it and deleted it. Not an issue, everything you can do in Fan Xpert you can do in the BIOS.

Why in gods name motherboard manufactures keep adding complexity and potential for failure to these applications god only knows.

Surprised that you find value with Asus Armoury Crate.  When first configuring my new Z490 build I had it installed for no more than 10 minutes before deciding it was both not anything I needed nor wanted on my rig...but hey, that's me.

Edited April 27, 20224 yr by TheFamilyMan

11 hours ago, TheFamilyMan said:

Surprised that you find value with Asus Armoury Crate. 

 

Well I didn't, or at least not much. As I said, I only used it for Fan Xpert 4 (which is good) and to adjust the minimal LED's on the Apex. It wasn't causing any issues and did what I needed it to do so I kept it. Now its not so its gone. 

19 hours ago, 109Sqn said:

I'm on DDR4, so not necessarily a DDR5 issue

 

No but it could be a RAM issue. DDR4 does at times fail with XMP. 

Z690 or RAM, a BIOS update is advised if you have issues. 

4 hours ago, martin-w said:

I only used it for Fan Xpert 4

The Asus Fan Xpert tool is really nice and IMO essential.  I'm able to access it through their AI Suite software.  It'd be a shame if it's no longer bundled with it and one is now forced to use the bloatware-ish Armoury Create to access it.

Edited April 27, 20224 yr by TheFamilyMan

2 hours ago, TheFamilyMan said:

The Asus Fan Xpert tool is really nice and IMO essential.  I'm able to access it through their AI Suite software.  It'd be a shame if it's no longer bundled with it and one is now forced to use the bloatware-ish Armoury Create to access it.

 

That is the situation now. Its only available with Armory Crate. I don't believe there is a standalone version. 

Everything Fan Xpert does though is in the BIOS. The same fan curves etc. Standard, silent and full speed pre-sets, all there. That's what I'm doing. If you look in your UEFI I'm sure you will see it. 

There is a link to it but not from Asus, not sure if it works and is genuine. 

Edited April 27, 20224 yr by martin-w

It seems I'm still getting hard lock up's with the new BIOS, but less f frequent now, once every three days or so.

Seems quite a few that have adopted 12th gen are having the same issue. Jayz2Cents just did a video about it.

From what I've researched, XMP1 sets a basic XMP profile that sets some of the parameters but leaves some to the motherboard. XMP2 on the other hand sets the full XMP profile. 

Well is seems that some have noticed that setting XMP2 instead of XMP1 fixes the issue, so that's what I'm trying now.