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Hi, Plane on an M1 Mac 16 gig. What is a good yoke to get that has all the stuff you would find on a real plane like trim and everything???

I am going to use X on a 24 inch monitor. Thanks for info.

  • 2 weeks later...

There is no standard as to what buttons 'n' stuff is on a yoke. Even in real world aircraft, some yoke have no buttons at all while others have quite a compliment of buttons. Not as many as modern car steering wheels though.

The cheap(ish) yokes usually have enough buttons but they all have one big issue: the shaft sticks when you operate the yoke with one hand. Since you often fly with one hand on the yoke, the other on the throttles during landing that becomes a nuisance.
If you're on a budget, I recommend the Honeycomb Alpha yoke. If you have a bit more to spend I can recommend the Fulcrum One yoke I am using myself. It is all metal and sturdy and precise.

Flightsim rig:
CPU: AMD 5900x  | Mobo: MSI X570 MEG Unify | RAM: 32GB G.Skill Trident Z Neo | GPU: Gigabyte RTX 3090 | Storage: M.2 (2 & 4 TB) | PSU: Corsair RM850x | Case: Fractal Define 7 XL
Display: Acer Predator x34 3440x1440 | Speakers: Logitech Z906 
Controllers: Fulcrum One Yoke | MFG Crosswind v2 pedals | Honeycomb Bravo Quadrant |Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant | Stream Deck XL & Plus | TrackIR 5 Tobii eye tracking

On 1/27/2022 at 6:59 PM, 4df5 said:

 

Hi, Plane on an M1 Mac 16 gig. What is a good yoke to get that has all the stuff you would find on a real plane like trim and everything???

I am going to use X on a 24 inch monitor. Thanks for info.

Another possible option is a a joystick. Joysticks often have more buttons available then a yoke, and some real world airliners, like the A320 series, and GA aircraft like the SR22 Cirrus, and of course many military aircraft, use joystick controllers instead of a yoke.  So using a joystick is quite common.   Just something to consider if you can't find a yoke that meets your needs for one reason or another.

Al

 

Edited by ark

  • 6 months later...
On 2/5/2022 at 1:55 PM, orchestra_nl said:

Since you often fly with one hand on the yoke, the other on the throttles during landing that becomes a nuisance.
If you're on a budget, I recommend the Honeycomb Alpha yoke.

How is one-handed pitch control w/ the Honeycomb yoke?  Does it catch like my Saitek does?

Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

9 hours ago, Noel said:

How is one-handed pitch control w/ the Honeycomb yoke?  Does it catch like my Saitek does?

I don't have the Honeycomb yoke so I cannot tell you much about it except it is likely better than your Saitek or my former CH Products yoke.


The yoke I am using is a Fulcrum One and I am very happy with it. It does not catch when used single handedly and it has twice the range in pitch compared to the Honeycomb and even more compared to the Saitek. It is more expensive than the Honeycomb but it will probably last a lifetime since it is all metal and uses hall sensors,
What's more, service by the vendor is great and he has his own support forum here on Avsim.

I do have the Honeycomb Bravo quadrant though so I can tell you something about the built quality of Honeycomb. It is not bad, but it is mostly plastic and not as sturdy as I would like.

Edited by orchestra_nl

Flightsim rig:
CPU: AMD 5900x  | Mobo: MSI X570 MEG Unify | RAM: 32GB G.Skill Trident Z Neo | GPU: Gigabyte RTX 3090 | Storage: M.2 (2 & 4 TB) | PSU: Corsair RM850x | Case: Fractal Define 7 XL
Display: Acer Predator x34 3440x1440 | Speakers: Logitech Z906 
Controllers: Fulcrum One Yoke | MFG Crosswind v2 pedals | Honeycomb Bravo Quadrant |Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant | Stream Deck XL & Plus | TrackIR 5 Tobii eye tracking

I was just looking last night at Fulcrum's yoke.  It, and Yono's, for their price point which is obvious for study construction w/ HALL sensors, aren't overly generous with switch options, though Fulcrum is better than Yono.  I'm scheming on Fulcrum's TQ which isn't for sale yet but looks promising.  Because of low budget quality of my Saitek I avoid using the yoke for pitch control and end up using electric trim, so I wonder if I got a decent yoke like Fulcrum's if that would change how I end up using the yoke.  Lot's of $$ and not quite sure for me it will be worth it.  I'm also intrigued by TCA Boeing as I'm flying airliners exclusively.  The combination of it and Fulcrum's upcoming TQ might be fabulous, except flying the occasional GA plane might be too weird w/ the TCA Boeing. 

Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

On 8/28/2022 at 8:02 AM, Noel said:

I was just looking last night at Fulcrum's yoke.  It, and Yono's, for their price point which is obvious for study construction w/ HALL sensors, aren't overly generous with switch options, though Fulcrum is better than Yono.  I'm scheming on Fulcrum's TQ which isn't for sale yet but looks promising.  Because of low budget quality of my Saitek I avoid using the yoke for pitch control and end up using electric trim, so I wonder if I got a decent yoke like Fulcrum's if that would change how I end up using the yoke.  Lot's of $$ and not quite sure for me it will be worth it.  I'm also intrigued by TCA Boeing as I'm flying airliners exclusively.  The combination of it and Fulcrum's upcoming TQ might be fabulous, except flying the occasional GA plane might be too weird w/ the TCA Boeing. 

I had a Saitek yoke for many years, and switched to the Fulcrum shortly after it came out.  I highly recommend the Fulcrum. It is extremely well made IMO, has considerably more pitch travel then the Saitek which provides excellent control when landing, is a metal yoke which helps provide a realistic feel, and support from Chris at Fulcrum is outstanding.

More info here:

https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/622830-pc-pilot-review/

Al

Edited by ark

11 hours ago, ark said:

I had a Saitek yoke for many years, and switched to the Fulcrum shortly after it came out.  I highly recommend the Fulcrum. It is extremely well made IMO, has considerably more pitch travel then the Saitek which provides excellent control when landing, is a metal yoke which helps provide a realistic feel, and support from Chris at Fulcrum is outstanding.

More info here:

https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/622830-pc-pilot-review/

Al

Thanks Al I'm looking seriously at it--they are shortly coming out w/ a 737 variant (it's just a different handle) which moves two switches into a "trigger finger" position--this way I can continue to brake using the left sided one.  

Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

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