In trying to evaluate FSX SP1 I've been using a test flight taking off from KBFI RWY 31, climbing out to 2K while turningsouth to 150. I fly by KSEA and continue to airport S50, 11.7 milessouth of KBFI.At takeoff, all the autogen is present in the immediate area butafter coming to 150 and nearing KSEA the autogen is "popping up"just in front of my aircraft or just beneath it!As I am abeam of KSEA, the autogen just plain STOPS being generated. As I continue on to land at S50 the landscape isbarren of autogen and suffering what I have to call the "blurries".After landing at S50, if I wait on the ground long enough, usuallya couple of minutes or more, I can see the autogen "catching up".It sporatically pops up, filling in from the north towards my location. This continues for a couple more minutes and if I waitlong enough, it will eventually fill in around S50.Taking off and fying back north to KBFI I see autogen poppingup to the north until I am abeam of KSEA again. At this pointthe autogen stops generating again. On the last flight I startedcircling from just south of KBFI back towards KSEA and eventuallythe autogen "filled in" around KBFI but there was still an areaBETWEEN KSEA and KBFI that was barren. A literal island of "blurries".Next I took off from LHBP on RWY 31 and flew over Budapest, watchingautogen fill in just below or behind my plane. I then flew across the Duna and circled left to land at LHTL. Again, as with S50 backin the USA, there was no autogen present. After landing and pausingfor a couple of minutes the autogen filled in. I took off and circledback and made another approach and landing, this time with an"acceptable" out-the-window" view with autogen present.I've tried backing my autogen setting off but this doesn't changethe situation at all, other than having sparser autogen when it DOES eventually fill in.My video memory usage never exceeds 435MB ( my X1600 Pro has 512MB )and system memory usage peaked at just over 1GB. I have 2.5GB installed.My system is old and I realize that I won't get high FPS nor doI expect them. I DO expect to see a reasonable rendition of theworld around me, however. And this lack of autogen and blurry textures is just plain unacceptable.I have a Athlon XP3200+ (2.2Ghz) on a ASUS A7N8X2.0 MB. 2.5 GB of DRAM ( 2x 1GB Corsair, 1 x 512MB Corsair ) 400 MHZ FSB.WinXP SP2.Attached are some screenshots I took this AM. Paul

Welcome to the club. I have a new system (E6600, 2 Gb Ram, 880GTX) but similar problems, although a bit less severe. Popup is a new feature ;) of SP1 and there is nothing to do about it. Blurries and lack of ANYTHING popping up after a while is definitely wrong. But I'm afraid you will have to wait for SP2 to get that solved.........At the moment I decided not to use autogen anymore. I do get great fps (50 but limited to 35 now), but also 'great' blurries. Textures are loading when I've alomst passed them. So even with no autogen and silkysmooth fps and enough headroom die to the limiting (I'm 'saving' at least 15 fps all the time!) I get blurries and a spoiled view. But I promised myself to be happy with what I got, so... (It's hard to do though...)

>Welcome to the club. I have a new system (E6600, 2 Gb Ram,>880GTX) but similar problems, although a bit less severe.>Popup is a new feature ;) of SP1 and there is nothing to do>about it. Blurries and lack of ANYTHING popping up after a>while is definitely wrong. But I'm afraid you will have to>wait for SP2 to get that solved.........>>At the moment I decided not to use autogen anymore. I do get>great fps (50 but limited to 35 now), but also 'great'>blurries. Textures are loading when I've alomst passed them.>So even with no autogen and silkysmooth fps and enough>headroom die to the limiting (I'm 'saving' at least 15 fps all>the time!) I get blurries and a spoiled view. But I promised>myself to be happy with what I got, so... (It's hard to do>though...) Thanks for that feedback. I must say, I am quite surprised that you are experiencing similar issues, given the hardware you have. I intend to upgrade my hardware but not until after I return from my 7-week trip to Europe over the summer. Assuming the lousy dollar versus every other currency rate of exchange leaves me with enough money to afford a new system! I had been anticipating going to a E6600 and some form of 8800GT_ video card. Hopefully by September or October these glitches will be resolved. I too, try to "be happy with it" and have accepted the abysmal frame rates but this texture and autogen thing is almost a game- breaker for me. At 15-35K it's not a problem whilst I'm enroute, but damnitall, when I'm on the approach I want to see something that suspends disbelief...(sigh)... Paul

Bumping this post since I've received no inputs. I've triedpretty much all the "soulutions" put forth in the forums overthe past several days and nothing cures my "autogen stops loading"problem.I've craked back cfg settings, deleted FSX.cfg and let FSX build a newone and in every instance, as soon as I leave the immediate areaof where I originated a flight, the autogen stops loading for allpractical purposes. If I sit on the ground after landing for severalMINUTES, the autogen sometimes slowly starts filling in toward mylocation, but this is absolute, totally, unacceptable.I just can't find any combination of settings that allows the autogen loading to keep up with my flight...even in a Beach Baron at 125 KIAS. Paul

First, there's no way you can run those settings with your rig. Turn the sliders down. Why have you got 10m mesh selected? Do you have 10m mesh for the region in question? If not, don't use it.Why set the fps to `unlimited`? You can't get high fps, so lock it to a realistic figure - try 18-20.Scenery to very dense or lessAutogen to dense, normal, or less.Water to 1xLevel of Detail Radius to LOW or Medium.Second, your specs show a curious combination of RAM, that won't be doing your system any favours. Lose the 512 stick. Bet that helps the computer perform better.Third the issue is simply one of resource starvation. You might get some improvement trying some of the FSX.cfg tweaks suggested by Phil taylor of ACES, in particular the SWAP_WAIT_TIMEOUT=I suggest you try 60, and work from there.Allcott

So you've tried turning down autogen, turning "level of detail raidius" to small and turning down water to high 1.X all at the same time? I have a feeling a new card would be of benefit.

I have a system very similar to yours, with an AMD 3200, 2G of RAM and a Nvida 6600GT.As the others have said, turn some of those options down. I run with Level of Detail radius set to one notch. I run Scenery Complexity set to the middle. Lock the Frame Rate! I set mine to 17. I was having OK performance with those settings after SP1, with some occasional blurry textures which I just assumed was all I was going to get with my older rig. I finally decided to completely wipe FSX and start over. Now I get unbelievable performance. Almost no blurries, and no stutters. I have no idea what sort of frame rate I would get if I unlocked it, but who cares? It runs great as it is.I am very happy with FSX now.Tony

>First, there's no way you can run those settings with your>rig. Turn the sliders down.Those are the settings that ran just fine, pre-SP1. I expect totake a big FPS hit in high density scenery areas or extremelybusy airports. What I can't tolerate is the lack of autogen.> Why have you got 10m mesh>selected? Do you have 10m mesh for the region in question? If>not, don't use it.yes, I have 10M mesh...>Why set the fps to `unlimited`? You can't get high fps, so>lock it to a realistic figure - try 18-20.I've run it locked and unloacked...no descernable diference.Locked it at 10 and even 5 as well as 20.>Scenery to very dense or less>Autogen to dense, normal, or less.>Water to 1x>Level of Detail Radius to LOW or Medium.>These are similar to the "default" settings that were in placewhen I renamed fsx.cfg and let FSX build a new one. They didn'thelp in the least, vis-a-vis the autogen problem.>Second, your specs show a curious combination of RAM, that>won't be doing your system any favours. Lose the 512 stick.>Bet that helps the computer perform better.>That's one area I intend to check. I have 2x1GB sticks running in dual mode and the 512MB stick in the 2rd slot. The system seems to use the 512MB stick, since memory use when I firstfire up FSX shows little of the 2GB being used.>Third the issue is simply one of resource starvation. You>might get some improvement trying some of the FSX.cfg tweaks>suggested by Phil taylor of ACES, in particular the >SWAP_WAIT_TIMEOUT=>>I suggest you try 60, and work from there.>> Tried the SWAP_Wait_ tweak. That appeared to increase blurries and did nothing to improve autogen loading. I've done all the tweaks on Taylor's blog at one time or another and absolutely nothing seems to effect the loading, or rather the LACK of loading, of the autogen.>>Allcott Thanks for your imputs. I'll try removing the 512MB ram stick but I'm not holding my breath. I'm not going to do any hardware upgrading until later this year since I'll be spending the summer in Europe and there is no point in spending $$$ now on a new system that will sit idle for several months.... Paul

>So you've tried turning down autogen, turning "level of>detail raidius" to small and turning down water to high 1.X>all at the same time? I have a feeling a new card would be of>benefit.Yes, I'm pretty sure I had all those settings in force at onetime during one test flight.My MB is AGP and the X1600 Pro was an upgrade from my olderATI AIW 9600 Pro. In the fall I intend to build a new system and as I'll be goneall summer there is no point in dumping any more $$$ into my existing#1 rig ( I have 3 desktops and 2 laptops but only sim on the "#1" )FSX ran acceptably on this hardware, pre-SP1, so I may just backit out. I've only 3 more weeks to screw with it anyhow before Ileave for the summer. Paul

Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling? A complete defrag can make a difference if you have not done that already as well.Yes, a new system will be nice, but you should be getting much better results with your current system.Tony

>Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling? A complete>defrag can make a difference if you have not done that already>as well.>>Yes, a new system will be nice, but you should be getting much>better results with your current system.>>TonyI did an unistall/re-install but I may attempt that one moretime. And I've de-fragged a coupleof times as well. Paul

>>Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling? A complete>>defrag can make a difference if you have not done that>already>>as well.>>>>Yes, a new system will be nice, but you should be getting>much>>better results with your current system.>>>>Tony>>>I did an unistall/re-install but I may attempt that one more>time. And I've de-fragged a coupleof times as well.>> Paul>Ah but with what? The Windows default defragger? Try Ultimate Defragmenter, and manually choose the files and folders to `promote`. That might just claw back the resources you need. I have a similar system to you and a 6600GT Nividia card and have no blurries, no stuttering, and plenty of autogen that looks like its part of the landscape, so it has to be something specific to your rig.Allcott

Paul,The performance you are getting is not acceptable. You have just about the same sys as me, and **I get better performance with higher settings** (I run 1m textures, for example).Very quickly, if it were me, I would try:1) take out the 512 stick of ram. Just run with the straight 2 gig dual channel and see what happens.2) Back off autogen to "Dense", which is what I run. You might even try "normal" if you can stand it. Just for experimental purposes.3) back off mesh resolution to 38m. That will work for 90% of mesh anyway. 4) I am able to run 100 mesh complexity--please note that. 38m and 100.Your comp should be able to do better, also...with at least NORMAL autogen. Take out that 512 ram stick(s) and see what you get.RhettAMD 3700+ (@2585 mhz), eVGA 7800GT 256 (Guru3D 93.71), ASUS A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2gb Corsair XMS 3-3-3-8 (1T), WD 150 gig 10000rpm Raptor, WD 250gig 7200rpm SATA2, Seagate 120gb 5400 rpm external HD, CoolerMaster Praetorian

Oh I almost forgot...Also test with a framelock of about 20-ish.Unlimited is not doing you any favors with Mr. Blurry.RhettAMD 3700+ (@2585 mhz), eVGA 7800GT 256 (Guru3D 93.71), ASUS A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2gb Corsair XMS 3-3-3-8 (1T), WD 150 gig 10000rpm Raptor, WD 250gig 7200rpm SATA2, Seagate 120gb 5400 rpm external HD, CoolerMaster Praetorian

>>yes, I have 10M mesh...>What 10m mesh do you have? I want to know the specific packages, not just "FSGenesis" or whatever you may have.>>Why set the fps to `unlimited`? You can't get high fps, so>>lock it to a realistic figure - try 18-20.>>I've run it locked and unloacked...no descernable diference.>Locked it at 10 and even 5 as well as 20.>You must lock BUT you must lock in conjunction with some other adjustments.Your computer should be able to run FSX at about the same level as mine. Maybe slightly less, but close.It should be able to have no blurries, and a decent framerate with decent visuals and autogen.>>That's one area I intend to check. I have 2x1GB sticks running>>in dual mode and the 512MB stick in the 2rd slot. The system >seems to use the 512MB stick, since memory use when I first>fire up FSX shows little of the 2GB being used.>(!!) Running 1 odd-ball stick is worse than running 2 sets of different sized dual-channels. I thought at least you had a 2x256 dual channel kit in there. 2 x 1GB dual channel plus 1 x 512mb is a no-no in most instances.It will use the 3rd stick, but having such a memory setup is a known performance degrader especially with dual-channel setups. I'd get that 512 stick out of there asap as it can't be helping things. It probably won't solve your problems BY ITSELF, but it will help and allow other adjustments to work better.> Thanks for your imputs. I'll try removing the 512MB ram stick>but> I'm not holding my breath.>Don't hold your breath, because removing the stick won't solve it magically. It will take a patient combination of slider adjustments to do that. Your sliders are set too high for your hw.Read my first post about the sliders. You can't, in my opin, run Dense autogen. Probably normal will do. And you can't run 10m mesh slider. 38m will be the max. But why run 10m slider, with a complexity of 49? That is kind of defeating the purpose. Could be wrong, but I bet you $$$ my terrain mesh looks better than yours, because I run 38m and 100 complexity. You *can* have an awesome-looking FSX on your hardware... ;)RhettAMD 3700+ (@2585 mhz), eVGA 7800GT 256 (Guru3D 93.71), ASUS A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2gb Corsair XMS 3-3-3-8 (1T), WD 150 gig 10000rpm Raptor, WD 250gig 7200rpm SATA2, Seagate 120gb 5400 rpm external HD, CoolerMaster Praetorian