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2D panel undocking and saving in WINDOWED mode - not working

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Hi,Is anyone else having problems with FSX not saving undocked 2D panel positions in the windowed mode?This is a really serious problem for cockpit builders, who are using the simulator in the windowed mode (including myself).Could someone from the ACES/MS comment on this (Phil?) ?Thank you.Tero

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I would really like to get a comment on this one.I find it really annoying that this basic functionality is NOT working anymore as it has been for years.Why does the FS not return the saved 2D panels in their saved location upon reloading in the windowed mode? Yes this works in the full screen, but not everyone is using the full screen mode. For obvious reasons.This is very important for cockpit building. Ignore this issue, and you ignore hundreds of cockpit builders.Tero

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I too would like this resolved as I use multi-monitor setups.Jim

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Hello,I agree absolutely.This must be a problem for everybody, who uses more than one view and/or multiple monitors for the instruments or moving maps.It is absolutely annoying, to save a flight with all the windows at the right positions and the next time I load this flight, I have to rearrange all the windows again.This problem has occurred the first time with FSX (not with any FS before) and I don't want to count the time, I have already wasted, to drag all the windows to the right positions again and again.Every start the same.We cockpitbuilders and multiple monitor users REALLY need a solution.I hope, PHIL or anybody elso from Aces will read this thread and give a reactionHappy flyingArryP.S.: My setup has one server, three clients and a total of 9 monitors.

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I suspected I wasn't the only one experiencing this...Tero

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>I suspected I wasn't the only one experiencing this...>>TeroJust to add your definately not alone in this, I use a two monitor setup and like to run in windowed mode with 2D panels on the second monitor so have the same issue. It works fine in fullscreen mode, it stores the previous window positions on monitor two, just doesn't work in windowed mode.

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Absolutely agree. I'd hoped this issue would be looked at with SP1 and was v disappointed. I use four monitors and it is crucial to me that the undocked panels are correctly placed at start up. I've already tried the solution which has been posted previously whereby you position panels in window mode, then save: go to fullscreen mode, position again then back to window and save again but this doesn't work for me. At present, I'm looking at the possibility of editing the .flt files in terms of panel position and dimension. However, these seem to be rather different than the FS9 files so not having much luck getting my head round them. I'm sure it must be possible for someone who knows what they're doing.Bud

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I also have a two monitor setup and find this issue very annoying... As far as I can remember, this bug was reported somewhere in the forums shortly after the release of fsx. I was hoping it would have been fixed with SP1 and was disappointed that it obviously didn't happen...Greg, Switzerland

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BUMP!I am not leaving this topic alone, until I get an answer from MS/ACES.Thank you.Tero

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I'll join you - this is a vital issue. There has to be a way to save undocked panels. Please can we get a response.Bud

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Seems like it's hard to get anybody to react to this :-8 Tero

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Keep trying. Seems like FSX don't like cockpit builders. I got the 767 today around which my cockpit is built. First thing I noticed was that I cant remove the panel windows without leaving a big black hole. FSX does not have the 'maximise view' option which FS9 had.Bud

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Sorry - I have to put this up again. The ACES team has proved to be first class in responding to many issues - some, if I may say, not quite so critical as this. I cannot understand why no pronouncement has been made on this.It is not just cockpit builders who are affected, it is any simmer who uses more than one monitor and this is an increasing number. For me FSX is just not properly functional if I cannot load a flight with the undocked panels in pixel perfect position.There must be a way to achieve this, surely. If it can't be done thro' the program, then could it be done by editing the flt. files. I assume the parameters which these contain determine the location of undocked panels on start up.Please, please can someone from ACES make a comment.Bud

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And I will!!!Can't understand why the Aces team are avoiding this issue.Bud

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Having a two monitor system I would also like to see a solution to this problem. Someone out there must know whether it is possible to save those 2D panels. I don't understand how Microsoft could have missed this.Ted

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Hello,one day ACES has to accept, that we can't accept, to move and locate up to 5 windows - in my case - every flight. That means, several times every day.That is absolutely scraping the nerves.There must be a quite easy way, to fix it.Hopefully more guys will contribute to this thread. There are many, many simmers flying with multimonitor setup.Happy landing

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Since we are not getting any comments from Phil or other guys at MS for this, does anyone know their blogs that we could post at?I am getting really annoyed at this thing.Like others, I can't possibly think of any valid reason how they could have overlooked something this simple and basic, that has been the meat and potatoes of flightsim for years. For as long as home cockpits have been made, and people have had multiple monitors. What do they expect us to do now? Set multiple windows to their positions and sizes everytime we start the sim??Come ON!Tero

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This is getting ridiculous. I've sent an email to Phil's blog on this issue. Let's see if that gets any reaction.Bud

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Hi,I have also problems with my Monitor + B/W TV setup (for Level-D FMC). Why has this feature changed from FS9 to FSX? without notice?Come on Microsoft, customers are calling!Nico Kaanhttp://www.nicokaan.nl

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If I may add one more similar item as we stir the pot:If the ATC window is moved to a secondary monitor, the only time ATC works is if you have clicked inside of that window. If you move the ATC window to another monitor, then go back to cockpit view and receive a call, you cannot answer it without going back and clicking inside of the ATC window again. This was not so in FS9. The keyboard replies worked no matter what else you were doing, or where you were doing them. (i.e. cockpit view, spot view, etc.)Thanks for the thread.RTH

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If I may add one more similar glitch that bugs me. I prefer to have a locked spot view. In FS9, once locked, she stayed locked until you shut down FS9 and started up in some other view, or unlocked it. In fact, if you saved your flight in the locked spot view, she remained there permanently unless you unlocked it.In fSX even after you have locked your spot view, anytime you switch views it becomes unlocked and you have to repeatedly relock it.Respectfully:RTH

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